NickButera Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I hate to bring this up because there's simply no defense for Sunday's performance, but I haven't heard this mentioned yet. Seemed like practically half our starters didn't practice Tue-Thur because of illness/flu. I know for a fact I could not be physically 100% 3 days after not being able to do anything with the flu. They were probably all knocked up on pain killers, etc for the game. I mean, that loss was so unchacteristic of this team. I have to wonder if this played a part why the best WR in the game couldn't shake a rookie, none of our WR's could find a way to get open, etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 43 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said: Oh OK. So you're going with the built-in excuse approach. That's what I figured And just for clarification, the comparative stats don't matter either right? And you're going with the 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Comparing the stats from 2021 to 2022 is ridiculous with half the season left to play. But please, go off... No, they do not... But if you want to look at it through 7 games: 2021: Points per game: 25.7 Points allowed per game: 23.7 2022: Points per game: 23.3 Points allowed per game: 24.9 And we can compare after the season because that is how you look at statistics when you're not trying to create a narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, NickButera said: I hate to bring this up because there's simply no defense for Sunday's performance, but I haven't heard this mentioned yet. Seemed like practically half our starters didn't practice Tue-Thur because of illness/flu. I know for a fact I could not be physically 100% 3 days after not being able to do anything with the flu. They were probably all knocked up on pain killers, etc for the game. I mean, that loss was so unchacteristic of this team. I have to wonder if this played a part why the best WR in the game couldn't shake a rookie, none of our WR's could find a way to get open, etc etc The reason why no one has brought that up it's because 1.they were missing both Michael Thomas and Jarvis Landry on offense. 2. They were missing Lattimore on defense. 3. They already lost other key players like Bradley Roby & PJ Williams 4. Their second year corner had knee issues all week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, NickButera said: I hate to bring this up because there's simply no defense for Sunday's performance, but I haven't heard this mentioned yet. Seemed like practically half our starters didn't practice Tue-Thur because of illness/flu. I know for a fact I could not be physically 100% 3 days after not being able to do anything with the flu. They were probably all knocked up on pain killers, etc for the game. I mean, that loss was so unchacteristic of this team. I have to wonder if this played a part why the best WR in the game couldn't shake a rookie, none of our WR's could find a way to get open, etc etc It's noteworthy for sure. Add in the 1:00 start time on the road, it wasn't a great spot to be in. It's 1 game and the overreaction here has really been something else. Just now, Jeremy408 said: The reason why no one has brought that up it's because .....the McDaniels haters want to be right about him and would rather focus on that other factors. Edited November 1, 2022 by big_palooka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, big_palooka said: And you're going with the No, they do not... But if you want to look at it through 7 games: 2021: Points per game: 25.7 Points allowed per game: 23.7 2022: Points per game: 23.3 Points allowed per game: 24.9 And we can compare after the season because that is how you look at statistics when you're not trying to create a narrative. See, the thing about looking at the stats as they currently are is that it shows that we can't use the hand wavy "We lack talent that's why argument" that has been implemented thus far. It also gets rid of the argument of "but last year we won close games and that wasn't expected" because better stats should be expected with better players or the same players When we seem to be going backwards with better or the same players the implication is that something is not good. And I can't be the players because they performed better under different leadership(not only in the win loss column but statistically). And now that I know how you feel about the stats I can mention the fact that the vision argument doesn't make sense either because we re-signed a lot of players to big deals when each of them had one year left on their contract(which points to the implication that they are part of this vision of the future that you were referring to). Therefore that argument doesn't work either. In regards to waiting till the end of the season to compare stats: If they don't get better or they get worse, is there a built-in excuse for that too?(I need to know in advance this time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: .....the McDaniels haters want to be right about him and would rather focus on that other factors.  It appears the contrary is true. From the point of reasoning and the built-in excuses that have been made, it would appear that you want to be so right about the new patriots regime that you seem to be going against your better judgment and ignoring obvious red flags(Weekly). This is opposed to ppl like @dante9876 or @Frankie2Gunz who were optimistic about Mcdaniels but refuse to acknowledge facts. Edited November 1, 2022 by Jeremy408 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, big_palooka said: It's noteworthy for sure. Add in the 1:00 start time on the road, it wasn't a great spot to be in. It's 1 game and the overreaction here has really been something else. .....the McDaniels haters want to be right about him and would rather focus on that other factors. How many were sick was jmd sick too?  or maybe we just got some fools gold texans game and Saints just loaded up the box and dared us to pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: How many were sick was jmd sick too?  or maybe we just got some fools gold texans game and Saints just loaded up the box and dared us to pass This is what I saw. Raiders went a lot of max protect, 2 WR sets which had been working in recent weeks. Saints matched them, brought 8 in the box to stop Jacobs and Carr had no answers. Sometimes your QB has to make a play and he didn't Sunday.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 50 minutes ago, big_palooka said: This is what I saw. Raiders went a lot of max protect, 2 WR sets which had been working in recent weeks. Saints matched them, brought 8 in the box to stop Jacobs and Carr had no answers. Sometimes your QB has to make a play and he didn't Sunday.  Yup plus Allen knows carr just like del rio and we still haven’t played gus def yet. only target that was injured was waller so idk if it’s carr being scared or jmd being unprepared  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ronjon1990 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said:  Ya know.... Josh wears a visor. I never trust a coach who wears a visor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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drfrey13 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 5 hours ago, NickButera said: I hate to bring this up because there's simply no defense for Sunday's performance, but I haven't heard this mentioned yet. Seemed like practically half our starters didn't practice Tue-Thur because of illness/flu. I know for a fact I could not be physically 100% 3 days after not being able to do anything with the flu. They were probably all knocked up on pain killers, etc for the game. I mean, that loss was so unchacteristic of this team. I have to wonder if this played a part why the best WR in the game couldn't shake a rookie, none of our WR's could find a way to get open, etc etc 2020 @ Atlanta 43-6 loss 2019 @ Minni 34-14 loss, @ GB 42-24 loss, @ NYJ 34-3 loss 2018 @ Balt 34- 17 loss 2017 @ Washington 27-10, @ Buff 34-14, @ NE 33-8 2016 At least 1 good year We go to the east and we generally get beat badly or get beat by bad teams. Sometimes we get beat badly by bad teams. This s not all the loses but some of the big ones and I did not count KC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Â Did you make a tin foil hat also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 5 hours ago, big_palooka said: It's noteworthy for sure. Add in the 1:00 start time on the road, it wasn't a great spot to be in. It's 1 game and the overreaction here has really been something else. .....the McDaniels haters want to be right about him and would rather focus on that other factors. I mean I certainly can't say it's all him. The execution by the whole team on offense was horrific on Sunday. It was literally jaw dropping how bad it was. Miller looked like an UDFA. Carr looked bad. Adams couldn't catch. The OL couldn't block. It was horrible. I hope I never see an offensive performance like that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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