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The only reason to consider trade Fields is because 1) he commanded a massive haul from someone - better than offers for #1 pick and 2) you wanted a true reset with a rookie deal in year 1 and two of Fields years are burnt now.  

You would have to be in 100% love with one of the rookies.  

I think it would be foolish to lose something you know is good for a more risky proposition of potential.   But that would be thinking.

It would be a ballsy move.   Not one I would agree with at all.  But not 100% unreasonable in theory.  

It would likely give you another year with a poor record and high draft picks as well as the rookie learned on job.  It would require a lot of patience and understanding from fans - Bears fans wouldn't have that in them.  

It would be a very long year for Poles if they weren't winning.

 

 

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I think it something a GM says about this time of year turns out to be true in Sept,  they're probably as surprised as anyone.  No idea why they hold press conferences beyond pleasantries, and no idea why we bother reacting.

That said,  everything/everybody has their price, and this is one of those times where I'd imagine the Bears price to trade Fields and the price another GM accepts to acquire Fields are quite far apart.  I'm guessing some teams are down on Fields or don't want to bother changing their offense to fit him/spending time to change him.  The ones that like him would probably love to have him, but at a discount. 

I'm with D here, if the Bears trade Fields and he works out else where, or the QB you draft looks like dog**** he is going to get crucified.  The much safer play is to build around Fields, and guess what if it doesn't work he's not your guy and you get another chance later.  No reason to burn a freebie lotto ticket to go buy one when you're not under pressure. Caveat being if someone offers you their top 2 picks for three years or something, then I think you have to take it.

What's really telling to me is that right now Bears fans are mostly reacting strongly against the idea of trading Fields, and I find that they-especially the angry Facebook uncle types-usually want to burn any current players like mad.  I really think if you've watched Fields and have an understanding of just how much he did with some real bad players around him, you're optimistic.  Some people seem to have annointed him as the QB until the 2040s, but for me I'm happily impressed and want to give him a year or two with talent and I think he'll do well.  In the mean time if any of the jabber about trading Fields and getting Stroud or whoever adds even a little doubt to the other GMs at the top of the draft, great. 

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What is really cool about Ballard stating that he would move heaven and earth to get a QB for the franchise is that he signaled to all the other franchises that he is very willing to trade up. That may send Houston into a panic, causing them to want to trade with us as well. If Houston is as stupid as they have been for the last 5 years or so and they fall in love with either Stroud or Levis this could be HUGE for us.

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6 hours ago, G08 said:

 

Remind me again who did Poles spend a ton of time learning from in KC? 

Sometimes a trade in this kind of situation is about who you know rather than anything else and Poles & Ballard clearly go way back...add in that Flus knows a lot of the players on that roster would fit perfectly into what he wants to do here and you have to say they do look like perfect partners...and that Indy are going to want to keep the top QB away from Houston.

 

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Idk if it’s been said on here yet but CJ Stroud hasn’t declared yet. If he were to stay in college, our pick value would skyrocket. Teams being complacent with taking him 2nd if a first team gets Young or vice versa would then only have the option to get the only higher end qb prospect by trading up with us. 

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4 hours ago, beardown3231 said:

Just remember, when Kingsbury got hired he said "Josh is our guy"

He did, but 2018 Rosen showed exactly zero to make you think he could ever be the guy. Kingsbury also had direct ties to Kyler Murray, specifically. Neither of those is the case here. 

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27 minutes ago, Ty21 said:

Idk if it’s been said on here yet but CJ Stroud hasn’t declared yet. If he were to stay in college, our pick value would skyrocket. Teams being complacent with taking him 2nd if a first team gets Young or vice versa would then only have the option to get the only higher end qb prospect by trading up with us. 

Running into Caleb Williams & Drake Maye next year he would be crazy not to declare.

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5 hours ago, Madmike90 said:

Remind me again who did Poles spend a ton of time learning from in KC? 

Sometimes a trade in this kind of situation is about who you know rather than anything else and Poles & Ballard clearly go way back...add in that Flus knows a lot of the players on that roster would fit perfectly into what he wants to do here and you have to say they do look like perfect partners...and that Indy are going to want to keep the top QB away from Houston.

 

Let's just hope Poles doesn't give him a "good ol' boy" discount.

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