biggie. Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Cincy's Achille's heel last season was their o-line. Safe to say Cincy probably wins the SB if Burrow wasn't sached seven times. They have made additions in the offseason, but Burrow is still among the most sacked QBs in the league. Is the problem still the o-line or does Burrow have a weakness in pocket presence and awareness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Offensive line and offensive play calling its like someone is playing Madden, the way they call plays. No plan or rhythm, it’s deep shot or swing/screen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 It's a little bit of Burrow, a decent amount of OL, and an awful lot of the scheme. Burrow does have some pocket presence issues, and is definitely very willing to hold the ball. But the OL does often get beat unreasonably quickly. And Taylor's scheme does absolutely nothing to help that OL out. A lot of empty, a lot of standard dropbacks, very little misdirection, a lot of deep routes that require either time or blind trust, which is the only reason it works with Burrow and Chase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Biggest thing is that Burrow will hold onto the ball too long on some plays. I'd say a good 25% of his sacks are balls that should have been thrown away. Conversely, every now and then, one of those plays he does get away and makes a play, but it does lead to more sacks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, THE DUKE said: Biggest thing is that Burrow will hold onto the ball too long on some plays. I'd say a good 25% of his sacks are balls that should have been thrown away. Conversely, every now and then, one of those plays he does get away and makes a play, but it does lead to more sacks. Would it kill him to use the TEs once in a while.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 The Bengals OL is a problem, but Burrow holds onto the ball too long as well. IMO their biggest issue aside from their OL is their lack of a running game. It's a glaring issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 31 minutes ago, Hunter2_1 said: Would it kill him to use the TEs once in a while.. They throw to Hurst a lot this year. Problem with the Browns matchup is that they can beat our line while only rushing the base 4. That lets them drop 7 into coverage just about every play and there's nowhere to go with the ball. In all the time they have seen Myles Garrett, you'd think they would have a better game plan for blocking him. He kills us in every big situation. Last night he tipped the first INT and later caused the fumble by stripping Burrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Your not as good as you think you when your winning. Your not as bad when your losing. Pg you are the afc Champs not the Browns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Sacks are mostly a QB stat, and Burrow has proven and straight up said that he doesn't think taking a lot of sacks is a bad thing. The Bengals OL is a problem (the FO did not build that unit correctly; they threw a bunch of money at it and hoped it would get fixed), but I think the QB is more of the problem if we are talking about sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMashMouthMike Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Combo imo. They seem to get enamored with the pass, and who wouldn’t with that assortment of skill players. But burrow holds onto the ball too long, and their running game gets ignored a little bit at times. But the oline is not good, so imo they need to use and abuse that tight end, establish a shorter passing game, and try to get a more consistent running attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, minutemancl said: that he doesn't think taking a lot of sacks is a bad thing. In the context that he provided, yes. Holding onto the ball and trying to make a play (ultimately leading to a sack) on 3rd and 10 doesn’t matter much outside of protecting your QB from hits. Either way, you are punting. Burrow was fine last night for the most part. The majority of his dropbacks had the ball coming out of his hands almost immediately. At some point when you’re down 2+ scores you need to hold onto the ball to try and make things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 If I’m Cincy I’m going all in on trying to get Sean Payton after the season is over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I just hate this conversation... We go out nd get 4 new lineman and it's still and issue. It's just a combination of everything.. Line sucks, Joe holds the ball too long and the play calling is suspect... just terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 47 minutes ago, fluhartz said: I just hate this conversation... We go out nd get 4 new lineman and it's still and issue. It's just a combination of everything.. Line sucks, Joe holds the ball too long and the play calling is suspect... just terrible To be fair, the interior of the line has gelled nicely. Cappa and Karras have played as advertised. Jonah has been trash against any top DE and Collins is a mess. Which is totally un-Bengal-like. For years we trotted out bookend tackles while the interior struggled. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Lets be honest they were due for a regression. The healthiest team last year & they had a bunch of crazy close games break their way in the playoffs. Not discounting what they did but when a 10-7 team gets those kind of breaks you can sort of expect a falling back type season the following year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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