patriotsheatyan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 In situations where kicking a field goal ends regulation or at least takes it to he half, it is normal to see a team kick on 3rd down in case there is a bad snap, so they can down the ball or prevent a bad kick. Has this ever actually happened? It just seems idiotic. It has to be what, a once in a decade occurance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, patriotsheatyan said: In situations where kicking a field goal ends regulation or at least takes it to he half, it is normal to see a team kick on 3rd down in case there is a bad snap, so they can down the ball or prevent a bad kick. Has this ever actually happened? It just seems idiotic. It has to be what, a once in a decade occurance? Has it ever happened? Good question. I guess better safe than sorry is the attitude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 hours ago, patriotsheatyan said: In situations where kicking a field goal ends regulation or at least takes it to he half, it is normal to see a team kick on 3rd down in case there is a bad snap, so they can down the ball or prevent a bad kick. I think part of the idea is that something could happen on whatever play you run on 3rd down too. How many times has a sack or holding call taken a team out of FG range? A lot more than a bad snap on a FG I’m sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 hours ago, patriotsheatyan said: In situations where kicking a field goal ends regulation or at least takes it to he half, it is normal to see a team kick on 3rd down in case there is a bad snap, so they can down the ball or prevent a bad kick. Has this ever actually happened? It just seems idiotic. It has to be what, a once in a decade occurance? Even if it's never happened, that's really not the point. It isn't about whether or not it's happened before, it's about the chance it can happen this time. If you're not going to use that third down for anything particularly necessary or productive otherwise, then there's no loss whatsoever by doing that. It's one of those situations where it's better safe than sorry, and there's no compelling argument not to do it (assuming you already plan on settling for a field goal, there aren't time considerations, you're already confident about the field goal, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I’ve seen the Pats kick on third down before IIRC, but it wasn’t to end the game - albeit, it was close. I don’t see why under the right circumstances, it would be a bad choice. Gives you a little wiggle room in potential game-ruining mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I know you're talking about field goals, but this thread reminded me of a play from the 1988 season with the Eagles. Quote The quick kick was still a real strategy back in the late '80s. John Elway and Randall Cunningham each punted three times that season. Against that awesome Vikings defense, Buddy Ryan had Cunningham punt on second-and-18 from the Eagles 14. Yes, second down, The punt went out of bounds 58 yards downfield at the Minnesota 28, which is a pretty good flip of field position, but still... second down? http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2017/1988-dvoa-ratings-and-commentary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Bad snaps have happened. That alone makes it worth giving it thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 It's about mitigating risk. Just because the snap was good doesn't mean it was a bad decision. And it's usually done at an end of game situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cddolphin Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 18 minutes ago, THE DUKE said: And it's usually done at an end of game situation. I've only ever seen it happen in an OT game where a FG would win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 hours ago, PapaShogun said: I know you're talking about field goals, but this thread reminded me of a play from the 1988 season with the Eagles. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2017/1988-dvoa-ratings-and-commentary Just looked, two of Cunningham's three punts that season came in that game. I wish Pro-Football-Reference had play-by-play from back then so you could kind of see where the game was at and what kind of situation led to a punt on 2nd down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I vaguely remember a few kicks on 3rd down - pretty much exclusively in OT, during the sudden death rules. Can't think of an instance where it was prudent over a 4th down attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Patriots/Bills in 2008, I recall the Patriots punting with Matt Cassel on third down because the crazy winds on the day. Turns out they punted twice on 3rd down in the 4th quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramxel Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Normally teams milk out the clock in game-ending situations, and kick on w/e down it is that they expect the clock to expire.... Really don't understand the question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 If the kick is blocked on 3rd down and recovered by the kicking team is it 4th down or turnover on downs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff23835 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Pats#1 said: If the kick is blocked on 3rd down and recovered by the kicking team is it 4th down or turnover on downs? I'm like 99.9999% sure it's a turnover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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