chefj85 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 When did it happen? Today makes it official, but when did it start? I think the point of origin was the trade for Love. That caused a deep rift that never really healed. Now its like an infected wound that calls for amputating a leg. Obviously, Rodgers needs to retire now. There is simply no other path forward for this organization. What else needs to happen? How can Gute be retained after this debacle? He created this mess. Realistically, Rodgers probably should have been traded. Now were in a mess you cant clean up. Just burn it down and start over. There is no foundation to build on. Is there any reason to keep Lafleur? Is there any reason to keep anyone? I say trade any players of value and stock pile picks. Cut anyone that is overpaid and untradable- like Bakh. You cant pay him what hes due to not play. What about Murphy? Does he need to go, too? This franchise is a disaster from top to bottom right now. Who do you get to fix it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 It started in 2016 when, instead of making PAB Rodgers play out his contract after not living up to the last one, the Packers paid him MORE money instead of trading him for what would have likely been 4 first round draft picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 We are being just a touch dramatic on this one. But also it was 2018 when we fired a good coach rather than moving a malcontent player. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Geeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzz the "angst" threads are coming fast and furious! LOL Settle down folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 I just wish I could find the things people called me when I suggested we trade Rodgers in 2016. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: We are being just a touch dramatic on this one. But also it was 2018 when we fired a good coach rather than moving a malcontent player. It was two years before that. We doubled down on Rodgers not once, not twice, but three times when he continued to prove he was being a PAB about who he threw to. This last one was the most egregious, and I can’t even fault Rodgers. Rodgers showed the same thing twice before. This is all on Gute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefj85 Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: It was two years before that. We doubled down on Rodgers not once, not twice, but three times when he continued to prove he was being a PAB about who he threw to. This last one was the most egregious, and I can’t even fault Rodgers. Rodgers showed the same thing twice before. This is all on Gute. Except how can you fault Rodgers? He took a trash team to the NGCCG in 2016. He carries this team for a long time and the FO and coaches couldnt get him the couple things he needed. His frustration grew toxic, yes. But Im on Rodgers side at the point of origin. If we werent an inept organization, Rodgers wins at least 2 more superbowls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starchisaga Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 The point where it happened is when the front office decided that the QB sells tickets and winning SBs doesn’t matter. It happened with Favre too. Bite! BITE and take…. THE HOOK! In the late 80s, while season tickets were “sold out” for 35 years, the stands became less than full. And, boxes were hard to sell. They noticed. SO…. They brought in Bob Harlan who made changes. Ron Wolf, Mike Holmgren… That is where we are at. Bite? I’m done biting with this QB blaming everyone else after he spent two years bad-mouthing GB. But I’m sure we’ll blame the coach, he’ll move on to New England and win multiple SB there. PLAY LOVE and cut your losses…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLcheesehead12 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 How did it get to this? Honestly I think the biggest blame needs to be thrown our drunk on power micromanaging buffoon of a CEO Mark Murphy. He hired these clowns including Gute in the front office, and he also changed our power structure to protect guys like LaFleur, Pettine and now Barry. And if we're going to point the finger at anyone for Rodgers's current, contract, he should own that too. He is no Bob Harlan and he's caused much of this trainwreck. Kick Mark Murphy outta here, and then fire everyone in the front office and coaching staff and get a no nonsense CEO in here who knows what they're doing. Mark Murphy is as bad as Jerry Jones and Al Davis on steroids. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fussnputz Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, LLcheesehead12 said: How did it get to this? Honestly I think the biggest blame needs to be thrown our drunk on power micromanaging buffoon of a CEO Mark Murphy. He hired these clowns including Gute in the front office, and he also changed our power structure to protect guys like LaFleur, Pettine and now Barry. And if we're going to point the finger at anyone for Rodgers's current, contract, he should own that too. He is no Bob Harlan and he's caused much of this trainwreck. Kick Mark Murphy outta here, and then fire everyone in the front office and coaching staff and get a no nonsense CEO in here who knows what they're doing. Mark Murphy is as bad as Jerry Jones and Al Davis on steroids. I agree with the getting Mark Murphy outta here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 26 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: We are being just a touch dramatic on this one. But also it was 2018 when we fired a good coach rather than moving a malcontent player. Joe Philbin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Winning and staying good in the NFL is exceptionally hard. Combine that with some Personel mistakes by the front office and some injuries and you’re in a bad situation Sometimes you need to suck to reload on talent. Packers wilL be back and good next year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Rodgers playing with garbage WRs and delusional people thinking Love would change that. Beyond stupid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, chefj85 said: Except how can you fault Rodgers? He took a trash team to the NGCCG in 2016. He carries this team for a long time and the FO and coaches couldnt get him the couple things he needed. His frustration grew toxic, yes. But Im on Rodgers side at the point of origin. If we werent an inept organization, Rodgers wins at least 2 more superbowls. You came in here, asked a question you clearly know nothing about and then decide your opinion is more informed than the people who thoughtfully replied and who understand the situation. Why? You need to realize that's the truth. The organization made the mistake of keeping Rodgers and including him in the front office conversation. That's why we suck. We're paying an outrageous contract to a below average QB who thinks he's a LOT better than he is. There's nothing more or less to it. Front office screwed up by allowing it to happen. They should have known better since many of them were around during the Favre end, too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, NFLGURU said: Rodgers playing with garbage WRs and delusional people thinking Love would change that. Beyond stupid. The truly stupid people are those who don't understand how different the roster outside the QB would be if Love was our starting QB and make posts like the one above. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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