mikebpackfan Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 No one will be trading for Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 It appears the Packers have broken Andy Herman. Quote Andy Herman There are a ton of issues, but ultimately, the Packers are just soft… -Can’t move defensive linemen in the run game. -Can’t break tackles -Can’t hold up at the LOS on defense -Can’t tackle -Can’t withstand press coverage -Cant catch through contact -Can’t overcome adversity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgwingman Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, Mdpackfan22 said: My dream scenario Trade Rodgers to the Colts(or similar team) for a 1st, 2nd(that turns into a conditional 1st) and 4th Cut Bakh Cut Jones 1. I would amazed if someone wants to trade multiple high round picks for a one-two year rental on QB who'll be due a ton of dollars on his current contract. 2. I'm not sure what you do with Bakh. Cutting him only nets you about $6M in savings, which could be easily eaten up by his replacement. Maybe you have Nijman and Tom as your 2023 Tackles, but you'll either need to draft a replacement or sign someone to backup. When Bakh plays he's actually pretty good, so keeping him and hoping he continues to recover might be the most prudent move. 3. Probably a forgone conclusion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Norm said: That guy is wrong about that **** all the time and then backtracks and says wellllll blah blah this is diff now blah blah blah In this case...I'm afraid he's right Now, that doesn't mean there's NO room to change his deal if both sides agree and rework some things. But the contract he signed was 1) weird and 2) gets more expensive the longer he plays. Edited November 7, 2022 by skibrett15 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 34 minutes ago, Brat&Beer said: It appears the Packers have broken Andy Herman. He’s right though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgwingman Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 To be fair, Ken has always been operating under the assumption that the Packers would not deliberately tank the 2023-2026 Packer financially just to keep Rodgers, which would have been a valid assumption until last offseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 See what you have in Love. Rodgers is cooked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) I in no way want Love to start any of our remaining games. Ol Rodg can play in the crap filled swill he is a big part of, he can take the beating for nothing. Murph and Gute were idiots to not trade Rodgers when we had a great chance to for a great return. Instead they bury us with this old man. On top of that at this last trade deadline they weren't even bright enough to cash out where we could have at that point. Are Jones and P Smith going to be on the team next year? They both should have been traded. We should have been big sellers of those who do not have a future with us long term, forget about buying. Edited November 7, 2022 by 15412 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitnhope Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Rodgers isn’t going anywhere. His contract and retiring same time as Brady mean he is coming back. Gute and LaFleur aren’t going to start Love. It would prove how dumb drafting Love was and how bad the resign of Rodgers was. Next year is going to be status quo. We as fans will suffer and some will still defend this management team. They didn’t have to resign Rodgers. They could have put offensive talent around him or they could sit on their hands always playing it safe and getting what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mdpackfan22 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, pgwingman said: 1. I would amazed if someone wants to trade multiple high round picks for a one-two year rental on QB who'll be due a ton of dollars on his current contract. 2. I'm not sure what you do with Bakh. Cutting him only nets you about $6M in savings, which could be easily eaten up by his replacement. Maybe you have Nijman and Tom as your 2023 Tackles, but you'll either need to draft a replacement or sign someone to backup. When Bakh plays he's actually pretty good, so keeping him and hoping he continues to recover might be the most prudent move. 3. Probably a forgone conclusion. 1. Most of his dollars would be eaten by us tho so the team receiving him would be getting him on a massive discount. I can see some front offices talking themselves into the fact that he had no weapons or OL has the reason for his 2022 season 2. I'm looking at 2023 as a re-set year. Rip the bandaid off and take all the dead cap hits in one year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packer_ESP Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, mikebpackfan said: No one will be trading for Rodgers. Exactly. That contract is a humongous pile of cash and problems, even with the Packers eating all that dead cap the new team would be on the hook for the 2023 and 2024 salary (which can be played with using the options, but all they do is move that cap hit to later years) so he's basically untradeable. Looking Ahead to the Packers Options with Aaron Rodgers | Over the Cap Quote For the team acquiring Rodgers they would be on the hook for the salary for the year. The cap charge would be $59,515,000 if they do not exercise his option and $15.79 million if they were to exercise the option. Rodgers has an injury guarantee of $49.25 million for 2024 but that does not become fully guaranteed until 5 days after the 2023 Super Bowl. If Rodgers was cut after 2023 it would cost the team $43.725 million on the 2024 cap. Edited November 7, 2022 by Packer_ESP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebpackfan Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Outpost31 said: He’s right though. It’s dumb lazy nonsense. Calling the whole team soft is a huge discredit to guys out there kicking *** every week: Clark, Amos, Gary, JA are not soft. Savage is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgwingman Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Packer_ESP said: Exactly. That contract is a humongous pile of cash and problems, even with the Packers eating all that dead cap the new team would be on the hook for the 2023 and 2024 salary (which can be played with using the options, but all they do is move that cap hit to later years) so he's basically untradeable. Looking Ahead to the Packers Options with Aaron Rodgers | Over the Cap " Can Aaron Rodgers be Cut? No that is not a feasible option. Because his salary next year is fully guaranteed the Packers would take on over $99 million in dead money. While they could officially pick up the option and split that across 2023 and 2024 it would be about $31 million in dead money in 2023 and then $68.2 million coming in 2024." WELP This is wild. He can be traded, but not cut. So literally a team could say "hey, will give you a 2025 conditional 7th rounder" and we'd have to take it just to make the cap next year. The real question is if a team would want to take on his contract and all those $40M dead cap hits as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smidgeon Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 41 minutes ago, Mdpackfan22 said: 1. Most of his dollars would be eaten by us tho so the team receiving him would be getting him on a massive discount. I can see some front offices talking themselves into the fact that he had no weapons or OL has the reason for his 2022 season 2. I'm looking at 2023 as a re-set year. Rip the bandaid off and take all the dead cap hits in one year But "talking themselves into it" does not equate to "desperately want to acquire a QB coming off back to back MVPs" and the offered package will reflect that. Too many people are bagging Gute for his drafting. That wasn't his colossal blunder. His colossal blunder wasn't trading him to the Broncos in the offseason. I've been saying since the offseason he needed to go. Now I'm right but 1) it's too late and 2) I don't get any pleasure from being right because the team I follow is going to spend 2-3 years trying to get out of the hole they dug. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I don't wish ill health on anyone but this could become interesting if a starting QB had an ACL in late December. Especially so if the team was the Raiders....! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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