TheKillerNacho Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 A disclaimer: I do not own a PFF subscription but my friend does and sent me this list to post it. PFF is obviously flawed, and in some cases downright laughable, I do not necessarily share their opinions on the top/worst players. Still, this should be interesting. Keep in mind their new player grade scale lists players via a 1-100 format. Also keep in mind that players of most positions who do not have a certain Snap % are not included (I think its like 25%). Previous update (Week 5): https://forums.footballsfuture.com/topic/45412-profootballfocus-topbottom-at-every-position-as-of-week-5-2022/ QUARTERBACK Top 6: 1. Tua Tagovailoa 89.5 2. Patrick Mahomes 88.6 3. Josh Allen 88.5 4. Geno Smith 87.0 5. Jalen Hurts 85.1 6. Andy Dalton 82.7 Bottom 6: 1. Taylor Heinicke 42.0 2. Mac Jones 51.5 3. Baker Mayfield 51.9 4. Zach Wilson 54.9 5. Joe Flacco 55.0 6. Cooper Rush 57.1 RUNNINGBACK Top 7: 1. Josh Jacobs 92.0 2. Nick Chubb 91.1 3. Derrick Henry 90.3 4. Tony Pollard 90.1 5. Rhamondre Stevenson 89.6 6. Dameon Pierce 89.0 7. Christian McCaffrey 87.2 Bottom 7: 1. Chase Edmonds 43.9 2. Melvin Gordon 50.8 3. Jerick McKinnon 52.6 4. J.D. McKissic 54.2 5. Kenneth Gainwell 55.7 6. Cam Akers 57.8 7. Darrell Henderson 58.2 FULLBACK Top 5: 1. Michael Burton 81.7 2. Derek Watt 73.5 3. Patrick Ricard 66.5 4. Kyle Juszczyk 63.4 5. Reggie Gilliam 63.3 Bottom 5: 1. Adam Prentice 34.5 2. Jakob Johnson 46.5 3. C.J. Ham 47.5 4. Troy Hairston 48.2 5. Tory Carter 50.9 WIDE RECEIVER Top 8: 1. Tyreek Hill 92.1 2. Stefon Diggs 91.1 3. A.J. Brown 89.2 4. Cooper Kupp 88.3 5. Jaylen Waddle 83.6 6. Justin Jefferson 82.7 7. Brandon Aiyuk 81.7 8. Davante Adams 80.8 Bottom 8: 1. Cam Sims 47.7 2. Robbie Anderson 47.8 3. Shi Smith 47.9 4. Mike Thomas 49.4 5. A.J. Green 51.2 6. Marcus Johnson 51.4 7. Quez Watkins 52.7 8. David Bell 53.6 TIGHT END Top 6: 1. Travis Kelce 90.8 2. Mark Andrews 84.5 3. David Njoku 83.5 4. Dallas Goedert 79.8 5. Daniel Bellinger 74.8 6. Will Dissly 74.6 Bottom 6: 1. Tre' McKitty 29.8 2. Trey McBride 37.4 3. Quintin Morris 43.5 4a. Ian Thomas 47.5 4b. Thommy Tremble 47.5 6. Johnny Mundt 50.3 OFFENSIVE TACKLE Top 7: 1. Andrew Thomas 90.2 2. Christian Darrisaw 89.1 3. Trent Williams 88.4 4. Laremy Tunsil 86.4 5. Tristan Wirfs 84.1 6. Rashawn Slater 84.0 7. Ryan Ramczyk 80.7 Bottom 7: 1. Greg Little 28.0 2. Matt Pryor 42.7 3. Dennis Daley 47.3 4. George Fant 47.7 5. Evan Neal 49.8 6. Isaiah Wynn 54.1 7a. Max Mitchell 54.7 7b. Nicholas Petit-Frere 54.7 OFFENSIVE GUARD Top 7: 1. Joel Bitonio 91.3 2. Chris Lindstrom 87.8 3. Michael Onwenu 86.0 4. Wyatt Teller 85.3 5. Quinn Meinerz 79.0 6. Teven Jenkins 78.8 7. Joe Thuney 78.0 Bottom 7: 1. Calvin Throckmorton 30.9 2. Bobby Evans 33.3 3. Logan Stenberg 34.6 4. Cody Ford 38.0 5. Matt Farniok 39.1 6. Luke Goedeke 39.2 7. Joshua Ezeudu 39.7 CENTER Top 5: 1. Creed Humphrey 82.7 2. Ethan Pocic 82.6 3. Jason Kelce 79.4 4. Connor Williams 76.9 5. Frank Ragnow 74.2 Bottom 5: 1. Jeremiah Kolone 36.1 2. Billy Price 38.6 3. Sean Harlow 42.8 4. Scott Quessenberry 45.4 5. Coleman Shelton 49.9 CORNERBACK Top 7: 1. Jack Jones 86.9 2. Jalen Ramsey 86.7 3. Sauce Gardner 86.1 4. Patrick Surtain 85.8 5. Jamel Dean 83.2 6. Isaiah Rodgers 82.7 7. L'Jarius Sneed 80.4 Bottom 7: 1. Amani Oruwariye 28.2 2. J.C. Jackson 28.7 3. Paulson Adebo 39.2 4. Denzel Ward 39.8 5. Jalen Mills 40.4 6. Damarion Williams 43.0 7. Marco Wilson 43.8 SAFETY Top 7: 1. Antoine Winfield Jr. 83.6 2. Kerby Joseph 83.0 3. Malik Hooker 82.6 4. Andrew Adams 82.1 5. Kamren Curl 81.9 6. Kyle Hamilton 81.5 7. Geno Stone 80.8 Bottom 7: 1. Dane Belton 29.9 2. Tre Norwood 34.5 3. Jalen Pitre 39.9 4. Trevon Moehrig 45.5 5. Eric Rowe 46.1 6. Jeremy Chinn 46.3 7. Darnell Savage 47.6 LINEBACKER Top 7: 1. Bobby Wagner 87.1 2a. Demario Davis 84.2 2b. E.J. Speed 84.2 4. Lavonte David 82.5 5. Bobby Okereke 82.2 6. T.J. Edwards 79.3 7. Matt Milano 79.1 Bottom 7: 1. Tae Crowder 29.6 2. Kamu Grugier-Hill 30.0 3. Kenneth Murray 35.4 4. Jacob Phillips 36.7 5. Devin White 41.1 6. Robert Spillane 44.5 7. Jayon Brown 44.9 "INTERIOR DEFENDER" Top 7: 1. Chris Jones 92.8 2. Aaron Donald 90.5 3. Quinnen Williams 90.4 4. Dexter Lawrence 90.1 5. Jeffery Simmons 89.9 6. Derrick Brown 89.0 7. Cameron Heyward 88.0 Bottom 7: 1. Zachary Carter 28.6 2. Tyson Alualu 30.3 3. Leki Fotu 30.5 4. Derrick Nnadi 30.6 5. Michael Dogbe 31.7 6. John Ridgeway 32.5 7. Quinton Bohanna 32.8 "EDGE DEFENDER" Top 7: 1. Myles Garrett 92.9 2. Maxx Crosby 91.1 3. Micah Parsons 90.9 4. Brandon Graham 90.0 5. Nick Bosa 89.9 6. Montez Sweat 89.6 7. Von Miller 88.5 Bottom 7: 1. Adetokunbo Ogundeji 33.5 2. Alex Wright 39.2 3. Robert Quinn 42.2 4. George Karlaftis 42.5 5. Jihad Ward 43.2 6. Julian Okwara 44.3 7. Joseph Ossai 44.7 KICKER Top 5: 1. Justin Tucker 86.1 2. Graham Gano 84.9 3. Brett Maher 79.6 4. Daniel Carlson 79.4 5. Chase McLaughlin 79.0 Bottom 5: 1. Matt Ammendola 28.4 2. Dominik Eberle 36.2 3. Rodrigo Blankenship 42.6 4. Greg Joseph 46.9 5. Joey Slye 56.4 PUNTER Top 5: 1. A.J. Cole III 86.4 2. Tommy Townsend 85.1 3. Bradley Pinion 82.7 4. Riley Dixon 81.4 5. Jamie Gillan 81.2 Bottom 5: 1. Kevin Huber 54.4 2. Jake Bailey 57.5 3. Arryn Siposs 61.4 4. Trenton Gill 61.6 5. Pressley Harvin III 63.9 ITS TUA TIME BAYYYYYBE! Ahem... oh yes, I'll be posting an update again after Week 13. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 No Jags in the top or bottom. Cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: No Jags in the top or bottom. Cool. What do you expect from a bunch of JAGs? 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I sound like a broken record every time this gets updated but how Matt Pryor isn’t benched/cut is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSlim Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, Blackstar12 said: I sound like a broken record every time this gets updated but how Matt Pryor isn’t benched/cut is ridiculous. I saw on Twitter that they’ve started him at 3 different positions on the OL this season and he’s been benched all 3 times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 So, the Cardinals have: 2 bottom 5 WRs. 1 bottom 2 TE 2 bottom 3 centers (one of which has played guard so they're on the field at the same time) 1 bottom 7 CB 1 bottom 2 LB 2 bottom 5 "Interior Defenders" 2 bottom 3 kickers And ZERO players in the top at any position. Steve Keim, people 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Georgie K a bottom 5 DE, Rough. I feel like he’s been doing better each game. Gets a lot of pressures Nnadi is awful and I’m glad it’s not Chiefs fans seeing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Friend Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Kerby effing Joseph!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockice_8 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Didn't realize how bad and arbitrary PFF was until this year after they changed some grades on Quinnen and Sauce after they got called out on Twitter for questionable grades. The one guy grading them one week was a die hard Dolphins fan and had posted a bunch of Jets hate on Twitter and for some reason they had low grades that week. Just really pathetic stuff from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Haven't watched a lot of Browns games. Has Denzel Ward really been that bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Quote QUARTERBACK Top 6: 2. Patrick Mahomes 88.6 Hmmm, a little low, but better where they had him before. Quote RUNNINGBACK Bottom 7: 3. Jerick McKinnon 52.6 I'd love to hear the justification on this one, because I think most would say he's been the best RB for us so far, or at least the most consistent. Particularly in the passing game, he's our go to guy when we stop running the ball, so I would've thought his pass blocking would elevate him at least. Quote FULLBACK Top 5: 1. Michael Burton 81.7 Sure, why not? Quote TIGHT END Top 6: 1. Travis Kelce 90.8 Obviously. Quote OFFENSIVE GUARD Top 7: 7. Joe Thuney 78.0 I would agree with this. Half expected to see Trey Smith on the low end, he's had some issues coming back from injury, but the bar for bad OL play can get pretty low sometimes, so he may still be average. Quote CENTER Top 5: 1. Creed Humphrey 82.7 This makes sense as well. Quote CORNERBACK Top 7: 7. L'Jarius Sneed 80.4 He's having an absolutely fantastic season, and it's going to be tragic when we inevitably can't afford him like every other CB that has succeeded here for the last like decade. I'm glad that their formula can appreciate him, too, because a lot of what he succeeds at isn't exactly...traditional? Not the greatest boundary pure coverage guy (though not bad at it), but man can he tackle like nobody I can remember in a long time at CB. Impeccable blitz timing as well. Quote "INTERIOR DEFENDER" Top 7: 1. Chris Jones 92.8 Love love love seeing Jones at the top of the list. Was worried the penalties might derail him, as he's had some big (and inaccurate) ones this year. But it is no small feat to be ahead of Aaron Donald ever in literally anything, and I really hope he gets the attention he deserves for this season. He'd get a lot more praise than he does, IMO, if he wasn't permanently stuck in second place at best because Donald exists. Quote "EDGE DEFENDER" Bottom 7: 4. George Karlaftis 42.5 First one I disagree with, here. Karlaftis hasn't been amazing or anything, but he's been solid. Gets far more pressures than he does sacks, so he'll need to improve on closing those plays out. But he has been impactful, and has been a good run defender as well. Couple pass deflections as well. Would've expected pretty middle of the pack here, not the very bottom. Quote KICKER Bottom 5: 1. Matt Ammendola 28.4 Definitely. Butker might work his way here if he keeps struggling. Feels like he isn't right after the injury still, but we'll see. Kickers who aren't Justin Tucker are all streaky, after all. Quote PUNTER Top 5: 2. Tommy Townsend 85.1 Gotta love having one of the best punters in football on a team that doesn't really punt. Think only the Bills and Lions have punted less. But they've also turned it over quite a bit more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Devin white continuing to be one of the most overrated of his generation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, iknowcool said: Haven't watched a lot of Browns games. Has Denzel Ward really been that bad? Not that bad, but not particularly good either. But he's missed the past couple of games and is being forced to play a lot of soft zone when his biggest strength is playing man. Plus, I feel like there's been a few years where Ward would start off a bit slow and get better as the season went on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 How are you going to do Heinicke like that? Dude wins games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2. J.C. Jackson 28.7 perfect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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