beekay414 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, candyman93 said: Also, you can’t just shrug off those 3 teams. That’s like saying the SEC sucks without Alabama, Georgia, and LSU. What? Nobody shrugged anything off. We're talking conference as a whole. Pac 12 has more ranked teams than any conference. They have a CFP contender. Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State are doing some HEAVY lifting for the conference right now. Nobody else is relevant. There's just no way anyone can say, either way, which conference is better. I watch the B1G every week just the same as you do and I'll tell you flat out that the conference isn't that good. 1 minute ago, candyman93 said: Caleb is throwing to NFL WRs too He's throwing to 1 NFL caliber WR. And I was talking about the entire team, not just who he throws to. He has to score pretty much every drive just to win games with how bad that defense is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 52 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Caleb Williams and USC don't have name recognition? No not like some of the other programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, NateDawg said: No not like some of the other programs. Nonsense lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Nonsense lol No one has watched USC play until last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, NateDawg said: No one has watched USC play until last night. Again. Nonsense. YOU may not have but it doesn't mean others haven't. USC is a name brand college football program. Anyone that says otherwise is, well, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, beekay414 said: Again. Nonsense. YOU may not have but it doesn't mean others haven't. USC is a name brand college football program. Anyone that says otherwise is, well, yeah. Agreed that they’re a name brand. I think you and I would both agree that Caleb Williams is more deserving of the award than CJ Stroud. So, do you think Caleb Williams is more likely to win the award? I definitely do not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, NateDawg said: Agreed that they’re a name brand. I think you and I would both agree that Caleb Williams is more deserving of the award than CJ Stroud. So, do you think Caleb Williams is more likely to win the award? I definitely do not. It's all dependent on whether or not they win out. If USC goes 12-1 and finishes up beating UCLA, Notre Dame and Oregon, with Williams balling out, he's going to win the award. If he doesn't, they'll defacto give it to Stroud. Stroud also came into the season as the favorite so he had a head start. If USC hadn't lost to Utah, I don't think there's a soul on the planet that would have Stroud ahead of Williams right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) The Michigan game is all or nothing for CJ. If he loses, he doesn’t deserve it. Give it to Williams or Corum. If he wins, he’s got it locked up. There’s no scenario in which he plays bad and we beat Michigan. Edited November 21, 2022 by candyman93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I’m an osu fan Caleb Williams is the best player in college football he’s the next franchise QB He’s gonna be in that Mahomes /Herbert / Josh Allen echelon. Im taking him over Stroud and Young he reminds me of John Elway. Idk if he should win the Heisman because if Stroud beats Michigan he’ll have gone through the gauntlet, but Williams is the better player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Yeah he’d be the first pick of the draft if he could declare this year. I don’t think he’s a day 1 stud but he can make all the throws and has elite traits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I think Drake Maye is absolutely going to be there with Williams next season as a potential #1 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Put me in the Caleb Williams camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CWood21 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 8 hours ago, seminoles1 said: I think Drake Maye is absolutely going to be there with Williams next season as a potential #1 pick. @beekay414beat you to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 12:18 PM, beekay414 said: He's throwing to 1 NFL caliber WR. And I was talking about the entire team, not just who he throws to. He has to score pretty much every drive just to win games with how bad that defense is. Didn't you and I just have this discussion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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