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57 minutes ago, ekill08x said:

I highly doubt it. He’s done here. I don’t think he ever takes another snap as a Jet nor should he. He’s not even a number 2 he’s a legit QB3 who is inactive every week. 

Streveler or Flacco though? I guess if they really see them as giving us a chance to win. Saleh said it’s not about the playoffs anymore (lol) They are road games, I think if White isn’t cleared we are getting 2 more games of him

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OUR QUEST TO GET A FRANCHISE QB

Zach Wilson 2021     second pick in the first round

Sam Darnold 2018    third pick in the first round

Mark Sanchez 2018     fifth pick in the first round

Geno Smith   2013       39 pick in the second round 

Nineteen years we have been drafting for our franchise QB's and we are still at square one.  Who is **** up is it the drafting dept or the coaching staff or is it the players. This isn't funny any more we are in serious trouble right now we had a great draft in 2022 and it is all going to waste because we have no QB. I just hope the Jacksonville game is a wake up call for the Jets.

 

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2 hours ago, doumeyer said:

OUR QUEST TO GET A FRANCHISE QB

Zach Wilson 2021     second pick in the first round

Sam Darnold 2018    third pick in the first round

Mark Sanchez 2018     fifth pick in the first round

Geno Smith   2013       39 pick in the second round 

Nineteen years we have been drafting for our franchise QB's and we are still at square one.  Who is **** up is it the drafting dept or the coaching staff or is it the players. This isn't funny any more we are in serious trouble right now we had a great draft in 2022 and it is all going to waste because we have no QB. I just hope the Jacksonville game is a wake up call for the Jets.

 

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New York Atmosphere.

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6 hours ago, Dr.O said:

What 2nd/3rd round guys you guys like this year, thought Anthony Richardson could be a nice 2nd round shot but seems like he’s going in the 1st this year

If Cameron Ward opts for NFL, he would be that whom I pound on the table for if he was available in 2nd round.

 

I don't mind picking up as UDFA if available.   Clayton Tune, Cameron Rising, Aidan C'Connell or Tanner Mordecai.

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18 hours ago, doumeyer said:

OUR QUEST TO GET A FRANCHISE QB

Zach Wilson 2021     second pick in the first round

Sam Darnold 2018    third pick in the first round

Mark Sanchez 2018     fifth pick in the first round

Geno Smith   2013       39 pick in the second round 

Nineteen years we have been drafting for our franchise QB's and we are still at square one.  Who is **** up is it the drafting dept or the coaching staff or is it the players. This isn't funny any more we are in serious trouble right now we had a great draft in 2022 and it is all going to waste because we have no QB. I just hope the Jacksonville game is a wake up call for the Jets.

 

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We could go back even further and add in Kellen Clemens (and the all-time worst Christian Hackenberg) if we're counting second rounders like Geno. 

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I think as Jets fans, and in particular impatient Jets fans, and rightly so. We are prone to throw the baby out with the bath water.

I would have the fan base to take a step back, take a deep breath and let things play out. It is obvious that Wilson has regressed and has lost confidence.

No doubt, and I could put it all on his shoulders as to why he struggles so much. But lets be fair and truly assess the why the Jets have struggled.

First the Jets OL is a jigsaw puzzle of players who have floundered with our best pro bowl calibre OL out in ATV it has been a major detriment to the line. Fant has been out the majority of the year and only just recently returned and to be fair I'm not sure how he's coping.

Our Center has admitted he hasn't played as well as he could, Mitchell is out for the year, Brown I believe is playing injured and has not been the asset the Jets were hoping to get. Tomlinson has been okay, but okay is not something that he's getting paid for.

Tomlinson could be a victim of a weak supporting cast as well.

We lost one of the finest RB's the Jets have ever had in B.H. and who knows if he will come back to be a shadow of what he was, my hope is that he returns better than advertised.

Our running game has disappeared and the last few games is averaging about 2.5-2.9 YPC.

Now given the flux of the QB position, it is easy for opposing defenses to dare the Jets to throw on them, especially if you have a QB who is worried that every throw he makes is being scrutinized. But to be fair there have been perfectly thrown balls which WR's have dropped. 

Outside of Wilson, the WR room which was supposed to be a strong suit has floundered as well, not to mention the TE's have not been used by our OC as he should have. 

I think White is a capable backup thats it, nothing more, nothing less, but that is a good thing because we know he is not just another body. He's a good backup, but if Jets fans think that White is the answer at QB I would say you're delusional.

Its easy for White to put up 300 yard gains by dinking and dunking (no TD's his last 2 games against teams not called Chicago) with an OC which allows him to throw 60 times a game.

That is another issue with the Jets OC, we can expect a run by Berrios during the game on a sweep around, we can expect 20 balls thrown over the middle. MLF is out coached game after game, he is not the answer for the Jets.

Rumor has it they will give him until next year to turn things around, IMHO it is a year too long. The Jets should move on from him ASAP.

As for the D line coach, the D turned around when Q blew up on the sidelines, and their was an air clearing discussion behind doors and after that the Jets D came alive. 

So I'm not enamored with all the coaches on the Jets, but I am a Saleh guy. But Saleh must not give into the sports writers and fan base and change QB's like he's changing his underwear.

J.D. will have his hands full next year with draft choices and FA signings and who to move on from. 

This Jets team is far from a finished product, but we have a good core for the first time in years.

Let's get us a QB, White is going to get paid as a backup in the millions as he is a FA, don't expect him back. They are not going to hang their future on a" perhaps" in MW. The Jets will be all in on another QB who can come in with this D and make the Jets a truly viable playoff contender.

Let Zack sit and learn and grow for as long as the Jets have to, if he turns out, good, if not we can move on. 

Lastly I am not a fan of having him in street clothes with Strev ahead of him, it is terrible optics and it could come back to haunt them.

Lastly, Lastly, My greatest concern is the Jets cut Zack N.E. picks him up and he turns out to be everything we thought he was when we drafted him. Only to haunt the franchise the next 15 years.

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I would keep MLF just so we have continuity if we're sticking with White, then if it all goes wrong we're re-setting the offence and pairing a QB and OC that fit each other rather than having changing up QB's and OC's too regularly. The offence could be there, our WR's are fine (we need to replace Corey Davis most likely) and our receiving options out the backfield are great.

 

White has 2 games to try and claim the starting job, if not it means we can probably keep him relatively cheaply and bring in someone else. Streveler is a gimmick and should only be kept if we're going to use him as one.

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15 minutes ago, Dr.O said:

Trade wise who’d we be looking at? Rodgers, Love, Carr, maybe Tannehill if they decide to blow it up

I don't think Packers could possibly trade Rodgers at all. His dead money is inhumanly ridiculous.

Carr is tricky because 40.4m gtd would be picked up by 3 days after Super Bowl or something like that.  QB situation doesn't look promising this offseason and draft so Raiders could gamble on keeping him until they trade him away in March.  Jets could convert 36m ish into prorated bonus but his contract will need to be reworked as 40m base salary in each season for two more years after 2023.

 

Love is risky because of inexperienced. 5th year option to be considered this spring.

Tannehill could be had for one year as his contract expires. Health issue won't go unnoticed.

 

I add Jared Goff to the trade consideration. Very affordable 25-27m per season next two years.

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