49ersfan Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) **I know the most likely scenario is he reaches a deal with the Ravens one way or another. That being said, lets assume he and the Ravens come to an impasse and they agree to trade him. What's his value? Lamar has his flaws as a QB and likely wants a fully guaranteed deal, but he's an electric 26 year old (as of next season) who was an MVP. I think he goes for three 1st round picks & three 2nd round picks as well as a QB back in return who can at least serve as a backup/bridge starter Edited November 28, 2022 by 49ersfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 I would say the starting point would be 3 1st-round picks + 2 2nd-round picks. Let's consider Russell Wilson as a comparable, he went for two 1st-round picks, two 2nd-round picks and they got 3 players - and this was for a QB who was out of his prime. The Ravens don't even need a bridge starter, just run with Tyler Huntley. His W/L record wasn't great but almost all of those losses were on the last play of the game last year. He kept them competitive 90% of the time. Realistically the Ravens should be able to get 3 firsts and 3 seconds at minimum I would think because of his age and MVP status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 42 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: I would say the starting point would be 3 1st-round picks + 2 2nd-round picks. Let's consider Russell Wilson as a comparable, he went for two 1st-round picks, two 2nd-round picks and they got 3 players - and this was for a QB who was out of his prime. The Ravens don't even need a bridge starter, just run with Tyler Huntley. His W/L record wasn't great but almost all of those losses were on the last play of the game last year. He kept them competitive 90% of the time. Realistically the Ravens should be able to get 3 firsts and 3 seconds at minimum I would think because of his age and MVP status. I would say that's his value but nobody is paying that. My guess is the Wilson deal is going to scare teams off of ever doing this again. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Just now, lavar703 said: I would say that's his value but nobody is paying that. My guess is the Wilson deal is going to scare teams off of ever doing this again. Then you'd have to use the Deshaun Watson trade as your barometer: 3 first-round picks, 1 third-round pick, 1 fourth-round pick. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Just now, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Then you'd have to use the Deshaun Watson trade as your barometer: 3 first-round picks, 1 third-round pick, 1 fourth-round pick. I could agree with that. I don't think it will ever happen however. Not because teams wouldn't pay it but because the Ravens wouldn't do it. I mean, we've been searching for a franchise QB since Theismann broke his leg. Its really, really hard to replace one and I just can't imagine Harbaugh wanting to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 3 firsts is likely the starting point and then add in the filler as necessary in order to come to a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizter_Clean10 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 McCaffery went for a 2023 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 2024 5th. So as far as RB market goes somewhere around that I’d guess. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Then you'd have to use the Deshaun Watson trade as your barometer: 3 first-round picks, 1 third-round pick, 1 fourth-round pick. You also have to consider the circumstances behind Watson at the time - basically staring at a lengthy suspension, an unprecedented suspension at that. So any Lamar Jackson trade would have to bring in more than Watson brought in. You would prob add on a few 2nd rounders to this deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 I think you're looking at 3 1st Round picks with the understanding that you're going to have to pay him A LOT of money, which means more than what he turned down in Baltimore/a lot more guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) Colts could make sense as buyers if it came to that. They've tried trading, but Rivers and Ryan were old. The OL is undrperforming, but has top potential (if LT is fixed). They have a strong RB, a topish WR and some field stretchers. They could add Deforest Buckner who would replace Calais Campbell well. I wonder if Bears make sense if the Ravens value Fields and get him in return, Bears have an insane amount of Cap to front load a Lamar extension (or buy him FA that he wants to be happy) if they wanted. Edited November 28, 2022 by Trojan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 minute ago, ET80 said: You also have to consider the circumstances behind Watson at the time - basically staring at a lengthy suspension, an unprecedented suspension at that. So any Lamar Jackson trade would have to bring in more than Watson brought in. You would prob add on a few 2nd rounders to this deal. If you use his trade as the starting point you can hammer out the details and differences from there, but yeah I agree with you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 So, question for Ravens fans: Lamar is certainly getting the exclusive Franchise Tag, right? Because if the Ravens used the non-exclusive Franchise Tag, I’m absolutely giving him a poison pill contract that Baltimore couldn’t match and handing over my two FRPs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, lavar703 said: I would say that's his value but nobody is paying that. My guess is the Wilson deal is going to scare teams off of ever doing this again. Agreed. I don't think he brings the value of a Deshaun Watson either, because there's the stigma around him about whether he's really a franchise QB. I think he is, but the question is still there, and that just shrinks the pool of potential suitors. That and the trades not going so well so far means, IMO, that the value is down to two firsts plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Just now, Daniel said: 13 minutes ago, lavar703 said: I would say that's his value but nobody is paying that. My guess is the Wilson deal is going to scare teams off of ever doing this again. Agreed. I don't think he brings the value of a Deshaun Watson either, because there's the stigma around him about whether he's really a franchise QB. Let’s look at the offset here - there might be a stigma about his ability to become a franchise QB, but there aren’t 30+ accusations of sexual misconduct. I personally say those cancel out at the absolute least. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) I was beaten to the rb punch Edited November 28, 2022 by Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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