Nabbs4u Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, ET80 said: So, question for Ravens fans: Lamar is certainly getting the exclusive Franchise Tag, right? Because if the Ravens used the non-exclusive Franchise Tag, I’m absolutely giving him a poison pill contract that Baltimore couldn’t match and handing over my two FRPs. Bingo! This is and will be the correct answer. The Ravens by not signing him long term last year "Before" the Watson Fiasco and Wilson Trade screwed the pooch but he won't sign. Now they are in even a worse place to get Lamar signed WITHOUT having to give him a fully guaranteed contract which they Do Not and should not want to do!!! No team other then the Idiot Franchise in Cleveland should ever be giving that out again, to anyone. He'll end up a Falcon, Colt, Seahawk or Lion in 2023. Texans won't waste thier Two top 10 picks and cash IMO, nor should they. Or he'll sit 10 weeks as a Raven since they have no desire to give him Watson Money! The hype going into the 2023 draft with numerous team having multiple 1st rd picks will be nuts until the 2023 NFL Draft has concluded the top 10 picks. Cluster @%%$ situation. Edited November 28, 2022 by Nabbs4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, lavar703 said: I would say that's his value but nobody is paying that. My guess is the Wilson deal is going to scare teams off of ever doing this again. Nah, we forget quick in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, ET80 said: So, question for Ravens fans: Lamar is certainly getting the exclusive Franchise Tag, right? Because if the Ravens used the non-exclusive Franchise Tag, I’m absolutely giving him a poison pill contract that Baltimore couldn’t match and handing over my two FRPs. 100% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 On a mega contract a huge portion of the cash is paid upfront right? If Snyder pulled the trade off, and extended Jackson putting 300mil or whatever into the deal, could that increase the sale value of his team (or help realize the huge valuation he is already requesting)? I don't think it's happening, but I just thought of the possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: Bingo! This is and will be the correct answer. The Ravens by not signing him long term last year "Before" the Watson Fiasco and Wilson Trade screwed the pooch but he won't sign. Now they are in even a worse place to get Lamar signed WITHOUT having to give him a fully guaranteed contract which they Do Not and should not want to do!!! No team other then the Idiot Franchise in Cleveland should ever be giving that out again, to anyone. He'll end up a Falcon, Colt, Seahawk or Lion in 2023. Texans won't waste thier Two top 10 picks and cash IMO, nor should they. Or he'll sit 10 weeks as a Raven since they have no desire to give him Watson Money! Cluster @%%$ situation. Let's say Lamar does end up in a trade situation - why wouldn't a team like the Jets, who have MASSIVE talent at WR mostly on rookie deals, go all-in? Certainly the Seahawks could try, but they're still a little short on draft capital even after the Russell Wilson trade. Theoretically there's 30 teams that would all go in for Lamar. The problem is going to be which teams actually have the draft capital to pull it off. Edited November 28, 2022 by AFlaccoSeagulls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 I would LOVE for Baltimore to trade Lamar. Makes zero sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Let's say Lamar does end up in a trade situation - why wouldn't a team like the Jets, who have MASSIVE talent at WR mostly on rookie deals, go all-in? Certainly the Seahawks could try, but they're still a little short on draft capital even after the Russell Wilson trade. Theoretically there's 30 teams that would all go in for Lamar. The problem is going to be which teams actually have the draft capital to pull it off. There's not even 1/2 of those teams who would go all in given the contract he's now going to demand. Not for him. As for the draft capital I honestly think the Ravens are screwed. Might be forced to take way less then the Watson/Wilson deal because let's be real. If they don't trade him before the 2023 draft they are at the mercy of PUNTING AWAY the 2023 season if Lamar holds out for 10 weeks Vincent Jackson style out of spite (What he should do) for the piss poor handling in B2B years of negotiations. So what do you do? Trade, maybe get 3 1st , draft a FQB yourselves on the cheap in 2023 or pony up another idiotic Fully guaranteed contract the Ravens clearly do not want to give him? Edited November 28, 2022 by Nabbs4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 The Browns destroyed the QB market. Giving a completely unreliable guys massive money fully guaranteed changed the landscape of what these young QBs are able to ask for now. If you are the Ravens you simply can't trade Lamar. He is way too good to trade away, but I can understand being scared of paying him what he is asking for. Basically.... screw the Browns. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, candyman93 said: I would LOVE for Baltimore to trade Lamar. Makes zero sense. That's my thought. He's doing well there, despite their refusal to get him some dang weapons. Why get rid of him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Theoretically there's 30 teams that would all go in for Lamar. The problem is going to be which teams actually have the draft capital to pull it off. If that theory’s based solely on 30 other teams existing, then sure… 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_W Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 a lot of underperforming QBs giving the bean counters anxiety 8 of the top 10 QBs are not playing to their contracts it's so bad now we have to look as far down as Goff & Wentz to find QBs not stealing it's a pity more couldn't have been done in Baltimore while he was on rookie $ but Buffalo & KC were super hot at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: If that theory’s based solely on 30 other teams existing, then sure… Yeah, it's more like 15. Eliminate the Jags, Texans, Ravens, Browns, Bengals, Bears, Giants, Cowboys, Eagles, Pats, Bills, Dolphins, Chiefs, Chargers, 49ers, and Cardinals before you even start talking about draft capital. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Daniel said: Yeah, it's more like 15. Eliminate the Jags, Texans, Ravens, Browns, Bengals, Bears, Giants, Cowboys, Eagles, Pats, Bills, Dolphins, Chiefs, Chargers, 49ers, and Cardinals before you even start talking about draft capital. Why would you eliminate the Texans and Giants? There are some other teams you listed I don't think she be eliminated either, but those 2 seem like super obvious teams that would be interested if he was on the market. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) Has Lamar looked very good since week 3? I feel like he's been Jimmy G tier since week 4. I would not want my team trading for him even if he was available, and all it cost was 3 first round picks. I'd rather trade one 1st for Jimmy G. Edited November 28, 2022 by Jeezla 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: Why would you eliminate the Texans and Giants? There are some other teams you listed I don't think she be eliminated either, but those 2 seem like super obvious teams that would be interested if he was on the market. Texans are drafting a QB lets be real here. They are in a full rebuild mode. Giants sure, but not the Texans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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