rizzy Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 12 hours ago, lavar703 said: Yeah, good idea. Bring him back to FedEx and start him on the field that field…everybody knows we’ve never had major injuries there If you’re this terrified to put the guy back out on the field then just IR him and trade him away in the off-season. This is the most absurd thing I’ve ever seen. The dude has been out over a year now. If he hasn’t healed by this point he’s never going too. Either play him or shelve him but this crap they’re doing is just dumb. I don't know he ****ed his knee pretty bad wasn't a clean acl tear. I'd rather they take the long term approach then rush him back and mess him up more like what happened with Dobbins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, lavar703 said: Yeah, good idea. Bring him back to FedEx and start him on the field that field…everybody knows we’ve never had major injuries there If you’re this terrified to put the guy back out on the field then just IR him and trade him away in the off-season. This is the most absurd thing I’ve ever seen. The dude has been out over a year now. If he hasn’t healed by this point he’s never going too. Either play him or shelve him but this crap they’re doing is just dumb. They just resoded the Fed Ex field in the weeks between the Vikings & Flacons homes games when we had the two road games at the Eagles & at the Texans. So, the grass on our field is brand new. They’ve been doing that now for several years mid way through the season. The NFL & NFLPA both put out a statement that Met Life turf does have safety issues: https://elitesportsny.com/2022/11/14/nflpa-says-study-proves-metlife-stadium-turf-does-have-safety-issues/amp/ “MetLife Stadium’s playing surface is infamous in the NFL. Many coaches and players say it is unsafe. And they do have a litany of anecdotes they say back up their claims — Giants wideout Sterling Shepard’s non-contact ACL tearbeing the most recent one. The NFLPA believes it now has hard evidence as well. From Pro Football Talk: NFLPA president JC Tretter posted a column with a series of action items, including a plea to remove all “slit-film” turf fields. Many had never before heard that term. Seven of the league’s 32 teams (the Giants, Jets, Lions, Vikings, Saints, Colts, and Bengals) use slit-film turf. Slit-film also is used at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London. “The injuries on slit film are completely avoidable — both the NFL and NFLPA experts agree on the data — and yet the NFL will not protect players from a subpar surface,” Tretter wrote. (…) PFT has obtained a slide prepared recently by Biocore, an outside firm that provides engineering analysis for both the league and the union. In the slide, Biocore explains that “slit-film has a statistically significant higher risk of LEX [lower extremity] injury than the League average,” explaining that independent analyses from Biocore and IQVIA agree on that point. The slide also says that “models suggest there are 2-3 more non-contact lower extremity injuries per season per stadium on slit film surfaces than other types of synthetic turf fields.”” Edited December 3, 2022 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, rizzy said: I don't know he ****ed his knee pretty bad wasn't a clean acl tear. I'd rather they take the long term approach then rush him back and mess him up more like what happened with Dobbins. Yes, people either keep forgetting this or think it’s not a big deal that not only did Chase tear his ACL but he tore his patella tendon as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizzy Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 11/30/2022 at 12:34 PM, RSkinGM said: If they want to run on us, the Falcons gave then a great BluePrint ! Triple team Allen and double team Payne ! I think they may want to but I don't think they will be capable of copying the ATL blueprint. Imo the Falcons are the best Run O line in the league multiple 1st rounders similar to our D line. I don't think the Giants have that capability. I also think our guys came in a little full of themselves after stopping Philly and everyone else and expect them to play better. The key to me is bottling up Barkley and punishing Jones every time he attempts the RPO. I want him to mentally not want to keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, rizzy said: I don't know he ****ed his knee pretty bad wasn't a clean acl tear. I'd rather they take the long term approach then rush him back and mess him up more like what happened with Dobbins. I mean, it’s been a year. How much longer are you supposed to wait this out? It’s like approaching Alex Smith territory and his leg almost fell off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packers2021 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I hope Washington wins the NFC now since my boys are done. I hope you beat the Giants and I think you will. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHatesnyder Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 6:17 AM, turtle28 said: As do I but I don’t think Rivera will do that. I think he will make a change down the line . Turning over the ball one time a game and averaging 200 yards passing barley won’t get it done . I’m hoping howell comes in and becomes like a Kap situation when smith was benched even after a good start . The 49ers went to the SB that year . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, lavar703 said: I mean, it’s been a year. How much longer are you supposed to wait this out? It’s like approaching Alex Smith territory and his leg almost fell off. I think you need to do some research on what Chase is working himself back from. It’s not a normal ACL tear and I’m frankly irate at Commanders fans when they keep acting like he should be back & plying. I see it all the time over Twitter & places like this forum & you couldn’t be more wrong in your assumptions. Your throw away comment that it’s like Alex Smith is hogwash. Alex couldn’t even practice for 18-20 months. Chase has been running around/practicing at some level even if it was at a small level on the side field doing individual drills since the summer. https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/27/is-commanders-de-chase-youngs-injury-combo-rare-washington-nfl-doctor/ “Morse, a Board Certified Sports & Family Medicine physician in Miami, is a Cell Therapy Specialist at The Osteopathic Center. He follows sports, is known as “The Fantasy Doc” and has professionally helped many athletes. Here are some excerpts from Dr. Morse regarding his opinion of the Chase Young injury. With the link provided above the interview begins at 42:50. “Even a patellar tendon rupture in its isolation is a rough injury. Combining that with an ACL is a BIG deal. I don’t think I have ever heard of this combo together. I don’t know how he would even do it. It is a very strange combo.” “The Patellar tendon is the tendon that attaches the knee cap to your shin. Essentially it pulls down on the shin anytime you want to walk or anything. It is a weird combination of tearing that and the ACL at the same time.” Traditionally the ACL is going to be minimum of 9 months up to 12 months of rehab without any setbacks. The problem with an ACL tear by itself is you pretty much need to get started on rehab pretty quickly. But with the Patellar tendon you need 4 to 6 weeks of allowing it to heal before you can start pushing it. You can’t do both at the same time because that would obviously counteract what you are trying to do.” “I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t come back until November. Given his stature, how important he is to the team, his position, the fact that you don’t want to bring him back and say, ‘Hey, we are only going to bring you back for ten plays a game.’ They want to bring him back and let his motor go. So, I think they will bring him back when he is 100 percent ready, really trust that knee, fortify that knee.” “Is there a possibility he doesn’t play in 2022? Yes. It’s probably only a 30% chance of that now. Maybe a setback, maybe the team is not doing the best and they say, ‘You know what? It is probably not worth it to bring him back this year.’ A just in case type of thing. I could see that coming to fruition.” Edited December 3, 2022 by turtle28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offbyone Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I am of the point of view that Chase is either healthy or not, turf should not be a decision maker. If they feel turf type or quality should factor into the decision then what that should really imply is that he obviously isn't fully healthy and shouldn't play. Either he is cleared to wrench on the knee or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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turtle28 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, offbyone said: I am of the point of view that Chase is either healthy or not, turf should not be a decision maker. If they feel turf type or quality should factor into the decision then what that should really imply is that he obviously isn't fully healthy and shouldn't play. Either he is cleared to wrench on the knee or not. I provided evidence, Met Life is arguably the worst playing surface in the league. Why would we want our 2020 #2 overall pick returning from missing 13 months after tearing his ACL & patella tendon to return for his first game on that surface? Especially when next week is a bye week, so if he doesn’t play tomorrow, he gets another 2 weeks to get even more comfortable with his knee before we play the NYG at home 12/18. Waiting 2 more weeks just makes too much sense. And he’d still have 3 games to play which is not nothing before/if we make the playoffs. Edited December 3, 2022 by turtle28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rizzy Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, turtle28 said: I provided evidence, Met Life is arguably the worst playing surface in the league. Why would we want our 2020 #2 overall pick returning from missing 13 months after tearing his ACL & patella tendon to return for his first game on that surface? Especially when next week is a bye week, so if he doesn’t play tomorrow, he gets another 2 weeks to get even more comfortable with his knee before we play the NYG at home 12/18. Waiting 2 more weeks just makes too much sense. And he’d still have 3 games to play which is not nothing before/if we make the playoffs. I think if he is physically good he should play. They have mostly said it's mental at this point, he is going to be eased back in. Let him get 15 plays this week mentally see he is fine and then have the bye to deal with soreness from not playing a game in over a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, rizzy said: I think if he is physically good he should play. They have mostly said it's mental at this point, he is going to be eased back in. Let him get 15 plays this week mentally see he is fine and then have the bye to deal with soreness from not playing a game in over a year. Or, OR… give him two more weeks to build up confidence in his knee & play him on a grass field at home instead of the worst playing surface in the league… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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