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If Patrick Mahomes retired today, would he be a Hall of Famer?


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1 minute ago, DontTazeMeBro said:

Kurt Warner had like 5 good seasons and got in so idk maybe. Now there is a thing where you weren’t a HOFer and you suddenly enter the discussion because you had a great season when you were old so it’s not the same situation.

Warner has a story. So much so they made a movie outta it. Its the Namath effect. Not sure you can compare the two. 

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Today? It's close because of the ring and consistency. 

In today's pass happy NFL though, being ranked 98th all time in passing has to be a knock against him though- not his fault, mind you, but the argument would be whether it was enough to catapult him over some other guys. I feel like the argument would become "He'll be out of the top 100 all time before he's even eligible" regardless of how fast he cracked it.

Either 30k yards or another ring, totally different story. I just couldn't justify it today.

Look at it this way- he's had better health, coaching, and overall weapons than Dak Prescott. If Dak won a Superbowl this year, he's still nowhere near the conversation yet and only has 1 year and a lot of injuries on Mahomes. 

If Dak isn't close to the conversation, I'm willing to put Mahomes in the conversation but not by enough to warrant induction just yet. 

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Mahomes took the starting job and essentially established himself as the best QB in the league. Went to two SBs, won one,  won an MVP, and is probably going to win another one. Has accumulated more bulk stats than anyone ever has this deep into their career. 

Career stats/longevity aside, he’s got a higher peak and better accolades than most of the QBs that’ll make the HOF in the next 10 years. 

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Absolutely, yes. By season's end, he will basically have the exact resume of Kurt Warner, just without the fumbles and the crappy years in the middle. He arguably already has a better resume than Jim Kelly, Ken Stabler, Joe Namath. He's closer than you'd think to guys like Dan Fouts, Steve Young, etc. If he wins MVP this year (not a given, obviously), you'd have a guy with 5 pro-bowls, 2 first team all-pros, 1 superbowl win, 2 superbowl appearances, 2 MVPs, and a superbowl MVP. There are not a ton of guys in the hall right now that top that. The real big guns do, the true all-time greats, the Bradys and Montanas and Mannings and Unitas of the world. But like, Fouts has one pro-bowl on that, and trails elsewhere. Tarkenton would have more pro-bowls but trail everywhere else. Warren Moon, again, just a couple pro-bowls. And man, if we put Big Ben and Eli and Rivers and the like in soon, they aren't even close resume wise. To keep him out at that point would be saying we basically needed him to stick around for a few okay seasons, and then he really would've been a hall of famer. Which is dumb. He absolutely would belong.

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No doubt in my mind. 
 

Truthfully, he may not if he decided to call it quits randomly at this exact moment. If he were to do it after this season where he could add another MVP and Super Bowl ring/appearance, then his accolades, stats, accomplishments, impact, ect is Hall of Fame worthy.

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