Week 14: NY Jets vs BUF Bills

[ekill08x]

Zach Wilson has had more games without a TD then with and we are criticizing White for not having a TD pass against a 10-2 and 9-3 team back to back in two very tough games on the road?! Like what are we even doing here. 

Edited December 12, 2022 by ekill08x

[doumeyer]

23 minutes ago, ekill08x said:

Zach Wilson has had more games without a TD then with and we are criticizing White for not having a TD pass against a 10-2 and 9-3 team back to back in two very tough games on the roads?! Like what are we even doing here. 

We all know Mike White gives us the best chance to win, and right now Z Wilson is lost, and I don't understand why we are even talking about this.

[JetsandI]

22 minutes ago, doumeyer said:

We all know Mike White gives us the best chance to win, and right now Z Wilson is lost, and I don't understand why we are even talking about this.

YOU?

[JetsandI]

Bam Bam Knight failed to record 100 scrimmage yards against Bills.  Terrible News. lol

Hopefully, White is ready to roll next game.  OL had done lousy job at protecting qb. Come on.

 

Dolphins have to lose tonight to keep record close

[Bobby816]

1 hour ago, jetfuel34 said:

Come on Bobby you are cherry picking lol. You now White gives this team the best chance and he can move the ball and that is the bottom line. 

He moves the ball better and passes the eye test better. And as I said I’m 100% not saying we need to go back to Wilson. What I’m saying is a spade is a spade. He’s thrown 0 TDs snd 2 INTs the last 2 weeks and is 1-2 as a starter. And that 1 win was against the worst team on our whole 17 game schedule. So praising White I think needs to stop. Both weeks, if he gets a TD each week we win and he didn’t. She just as Wilson was to blame for both our NE losses. White is to blame for our last 2 losses. He doesn’t get a pass.

[JetsandI]

3 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

He moves the ball better and passes the eye test better. And as I said I’m 100% not saying we need to go back to Wilson. What I’m saying is a spade is a spade. He’s thrown 0 TDs snd 2 INTs the last 2 weeks and is 1-2 as a starter. And that 1 win was against the worst team on our whole 17 game schedule. So praising White I think needs to stop. Both weeks, if he gets a TD each week we win and he didn’t. She just as Wilson was to blame for both our NE losses. White is to blame for our last 2 losses. He doesn’t get a pass.

Lets look at their progressions.  White, by far, offers the most.  Jets should stay with him all the way to see something improved.

[Bobby816]

19 minutes ago, JetsandI said:

Lets look at their progressions.  White, by far, offers the most.  Jets should stay with him all the way to see something improved.

100%. He’s our best chance. Doesn’t mean he’s not subject to criticism though. He’s 0-2 with 0 TDs and 2 INTs the last 2 weeks. And I’ll criticize that.

[GangGreen420]

36 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

He moves the ball better and passes the eye test better. And as I said I’m 100% not saying we need to go back to Wilson. What I’m saying is a spade is a spade. He’s thrown 0 TDs snd 2 INTs the last 2 weeks and is 1-2 as a starter. And that 1 win was against the worst team on our whole 17 game schedule. So praising White I think needs to stop. Both weeks, if he gets a TD each week we win and he didn’t. She just as Wilson was to blame for both our NE losses. White is to blame for our last 2 losses. He doesn’t get a pass.

I don’t think it’s fair to compare Whites role in his losses to a game like @NE where Zach couldn’t even get the offense lined up correctly or gain a yard

[NYJets4716]

I'm not sure why we are bashing Mike White, he isn't the issue. He seems competent at QB. The OL is not good, I have been saying that all season. Yeah, Zach Wilson is athletic and dodges sacks. But this OL is trash, too many QB pressures and hard to run the ball.

 

Joe Flacco is washed up, he shouldn't be the backup. It makes no sense that we have Flacco coming into games, he is done. 

 

[TheChad]

Man I want so much for Mike White to succeed here. Love everything about him.

 

For us, playoffs start next week. The Chargers have equalled our record and their last four games are:

• Ten
• @Indy
• Rams
• @Denver

They're surely winning at least 3 of those.

We pretty much need the Dolphins to collapse or for us to win out (and jump the Dolphins on a tiebreaker).

 

I don't think this is the year for us. There's a lot to be positive about, and a real upward trend that we haven't had in a while. From 2 wins in 2020 to 4 wins in 2021 to 7+ in 2022. Fantastic defense and a lot of talented young players here. Disappointing to go from 5-2 and 6-3 to likely missing the playoffs, but no one was picking us to sniff the playoffs before the season started. Let's try not getting swept by the Pats next year.

[Big T]

MLF this year has one, 1, TD in the first half of 13 games. NOW, don't tell me, this is not an issue.

If the Jets score 3 points in the first half of those games we might have won a few more. 

MLF is too young and too inexperienced to be an OC. I'm not saying he doesn't have potential. 

But teams have found a way to beat the Jets. Even with the 5th best D in the NFL, the Jets have lost 6 games.

Forget that Zac has issues, or M. White gives the Jets a ton of yards and can't get across the goal line.

The Offense is predictable. The Zac game as I like to call it, where he stunk up the place with his play didn't lose the game. We lost because of special teams on a 98 yard kick off return. 

But Belacheat out coached MLF, has and always will until he wakes up and stops being so predictable.

Why can't we win? We have the RB's, WR's, TE's we have the offensive power to win games, M. White is averaging 300 yards a game. 

Lets throw out the Chicago game for just a second, the Jets are averaging about 15 points a game the last 2 games. White hasn't thrown a TD in 8 quarters. 

Is it him? Are there moral victories here? He played his heart out, he took a licking and came back, I would go to war with him, etc, etc, etc. 

Okay, so he wears a garland on his head after every loss, has 300 yards a game and the Jets are on a 2 game skid and have to get ready to play a rejuvenated Lions team which can light up a defense.

As good as our defense is, they are on the field too long, even an elite defense needs a rest, and the offense can't seem to remain on the field long enough to score points in the first half.

1 TD in the first half of 13 games? OKAYYYYYYY. The fault has to lay at someones feet and that someone has to be the OC. Period!

[ukjets21]

Any attempt to try and compare Mike White's performances in the past two losses with Zach Wilson's in nearly any of his games should be laughed out the room. Wilson is JaMarcus Russell and White might be Ryan Fitzpatrick.

[Bobby816]

8 hours ago, GangGreen420 said:

I don’t think it’s fair to compare Whites role in his losses to a game like @NE where Zach couldn’t even get the offense lined up correctly or gain a yard

You're looking at it strictly from an eye test. I said White has LOOKED better than Wilson. And once again, I'm not saying White is trash and put Wilson back in.

What I'm saying is White is 1-2 as the starter with his only win against one of the worst teams in the whole league and arguably the worst defense in the whole league. The whole fan base seems to be on a high on White since that game, when in fact we've lost 2 in a row and have no passing TDs in that time. But that game is exactly what it was. A game we should've won. Then in the challenging games what has White done? 0 TDs and 2 INTs in 2 games and both loses. Once again not at all saying we need to put Wilson in, but he was 5-2 as the starter in 7 games. White in 3 games has as many losses as he did in 7. My point is merely. We 100% should be critical of Wilson for his games against NE and that's why he got benched. But White shouldn't get a pass for poor games against MIN and BUF. Are those 2 teams good teams? Yes. But MIN had statistically one of the worst secondary's in the league and all he did was get us in FG range 5 times and throw 2 INTs with 0 TDs. That's a failure. Yesterday I get he was getting banged up. And he was tough as nails. But fact is once again it was another week with no passing TDs and a loss. You eliminate that game against CHI and this team hasn't thrown for a TD since the BUF game on 11/6. Defense has been lights out but the O isn't holding up. Wilson and White aren't holding up.

White deserves criticism the same way Wilson does. Bc he had a good game against a poor CHI team doesn't give him a pass. With that line of thinking.... Wilson should've never got benched bc he in fact was 5-2 as a starter before he got benched and just had a quality win over BUF.

[GangGreen420]

1 hour ago, Bobby816 said:

You're looking at it strictly from an eye test. I said White has LOOKED better than Wilson. And once again, I'm not saying White is trash and put Wilson back in.

What I'm saying is White is 1-2 as the starter with his only win against one of the worst teams in the whole league and arguably the worst defense in the whole league. The whole fan base seems to be on a high on White since that game, when in fact we've lost 2 in a row and have no passing TDs in that time. But that game is exactly what it was. A game we should've won. Then in the challenging games what has White done? 0 TDs and 2 INTs in 2 games and both loses. Once again not at all saying we need to put Wilson in, but he was 5-2 as the starter in 7 games. White in 3 games has as many losses as he did in 7. My point is merely. We 100% should be critical of Wilson for his games against NE and that's why he got benched. But White shouldn't get a pass for poor games against MIN and BUF. Are those 2 teams good teams? Yes. But MIN had statistically one of the worst secondary's in the league and all he did was get us in FG range 5 times and throw 2 INTs with 0 TDs. That's a failure. Yesterday I get he was getting banged up. And he was tough as nails. But fact is once again it was another week with no passing TDs and a loss. You eliminate that game against CHI and this team hasn't thrown for a TD since the BUF game on 11/6. Defense has been lights out but the O isn't holding up. Wilson and White aren't holding up.

White deserves criticism the same way Wilson does. Bc he had a good game against a poor CHI team doesn't give him a pass. With that line of thinking.... Wilson should've never got benched bc he in fact was 5-2 as a starter before he got benched and just had a quality win over BUF.

What exactly are you trying to say then? Just “We don’t have a QB still”???

And no, White plays the QB position at a much higher level than Zach so he doesn’t deserve “criticism the same way Wilson does” 

He lost to two of the best teams in the league in team losses and we have no better option to go with. The fact that he didn’t light up the stat sheet really doesn’t matter.

[NJerseypaint]

I would definitely criticize MW's ability to play in crunch time. As dumb as it is, Zach was money in need to score drives and MW has been terrible (I'm aware Zach was terrible the rest of the time and MW wasn't). He needs to fix that and also learn to avoid big hits. I know of at least one he took where he could've throw the ball away. Just gotta watch some Brady tape on how to be slow but still nimble.

Also, Joe Flacco cannot be the #2. I don't care about controversy - no way Zach goes in and goes for 300 yards and 3 TDs anyways, but Joe is utter garbage.