Steve_DeBerg_Fan_420 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) Why do people consider Purdy unathletic? He can run pretty well, he can throw accurately on the run, he has a football players build, and has a pretty strong lower body. There are not a lot of great hof qb's that get drafted late, but there are a few serviceable guys out there. I think this team could win a championship with McCoy, Minshew III, Heinekie, or Keenum. Not sure about Plummer, he must be in his 50's by now. Edited December 7, 2022 by Steve_DeBerg_Fan_420 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, Steve_DeBerg_Fan_420 said: Why do people consider Purdy unathletic? He can run pretty well, he can throw accurately on the run, he has a football players build, and has a pretty strong lower body. There are not a lot of great hof qb's that get drafted late, but there are a few serviceable guys out there. I think this team could win a championship with McCoy, Minshew III, Heinekie, or Keenum. Not sure about Plummer, he must be in his 50's by now. I don't think anyone does consider him unathletic? I haven't heard anyone say that. I don't think he's anything special in that regard, a lot of those guys are pretty similar, but I don't think that there are any concerns about his athleticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman9er Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 He's got the alacrity of a Russ Wilson, the arm strength of a John Elway, and the brain of a... well I'll let Silverback tell you! Quote Trent Williams had high praise for Purdy after his first real NFL action. In fact, Williams compared him to Peyton Manning. Look: 49ers Star Has Telling Comment On Brock Purdy (msn.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Kyle Shanahan is good at creating offense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Steve_DeBerg_Fan_420 said: Why do people consider Purdy unathletic? He can run pretty well, he can throw accurately on the run, he has a football players build, and has a pretty strong lower body. There are not a lot of great hof qb's that get drafted late, but there are a few serviceable guys out there. I think this team could win a championship with McCoy, Minshew III, Heinekie, or Keenum. Not sure about Plummer, he must be in his 50's by now. You must be really confident in our defense mate Maybe if it was twenty years ago I'd be following your lead, but now, especially with every team having to win 4 straight for a ring unless you're the top seed in the conference...those type of players gave me zero hope in this era even with a stacked roster around with a mastermind offensive coach. Jake Plummer in his prime, yeah I'd be ok with that... Edited December 8, 2022 by TecmoSuperJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIllg Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 8 hours ago, Forge said: Kyle Shanahan is good at creating offense The Jimmy G and Nick Mullens spots on the YPA list is still bananas. XD I'm kinda fascinated on how'd he'd have done with Mac Jones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Forge Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, JIllg said: The Jimmy G and Nick Mullens spots on the YPA list is still bananas. XD I'm kinda fascinated on how'd he'd have done with Mac Jones. After the possible (if not likely) failure of both RG3 and Trey Lance, I doubt that Kyle ever makes a big swing on a QB again lol. It's like how every time Kyle goes for it on 4th down and doesn't get it, I'm convinced he's never going to go for it again lol. I feel kind of the same thing here...he (and his father) have made huge swings on QB position and thus far, all have been abject disasters if you also include Jay Cutler (if you include him- they only made a small trade up and he actually did have some nominal success). I could totally see Kyle just being like, "nope...I've done that multiple times and it doesn't work...just give me those CJ Beathard and Brock Purdy's in the 3rd - 7th round and I'll make it work". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Forge said: After the likely failure of both RG3 and Trey Lance, I doubt that Kyle ever makes a big swing on a QB again lol. It's like how every time Kyle goes for it on 4th down and doesn't get it, I'm convinced he's never going to go for it again lol. I feel kind of the same thing here...he (and his father) have made huge swings on QB position and thus far, all have been abject disasters if you also include Jay Cutler (if you include him- they only made a small trade up and he actually did have some nominal success). I could totally see Kyle just being like, "nope...I've done that multiple times and it doesn't work...just give me those CJ Beathard and Brock Purdy's in the 3rd - 7th round and I'll make it work". Likely failure of Trey Lance? Hmm............. 24 minutes ago, NcFinest9erFan said: I don't think Wirfs will play this week but we definitely need to keep an eye out on the status of Winfield Jr. 18 hours ago, Steve_DeBerg_Fan_420 said: Why do people consider Purdy unathletic? He can run pretty well, he can throw accurately on the run, he has a football players build, and has a pretty strong lower body. There are not a lot of great hof qb's that get drafted late, but there are a few serviceable guys out there. I think this team could win a championship with McCoy, Minshew III, Heinekie, or Keenum. Not sure about Plummer, he must be in his 50's by now. He's definitely more athletic than Jimmy, that's for damn sure lol. Purdy can get out of the pocket which could unlock an element to this offense that we just did not get with Jimmy. He's not going to be able to many things on the level of Jimmy so this will be important. CMC vs David in the passing game is going to be a tremendous match up, can't wait! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: Likely failure of Trey Lance? Hmm............. It's just based on a statistical probability is all (I edited it before you posted, but after you quoted) I have no idea how good / bad he will be as he doesn't have the sample size for me to really make any judgments. But we know a good chunk of QBs fail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIllg Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Forge said: It's just based on a statistical probability is all (I edited it before you posted, but after you quoted) I have no idea how good / bad he will be as he doesn't have the sample size for me to really make any judgments. But we know a good chunk of QBs fail Lance's got an upward climb with no more leeway. I think if he had this year to work out kinks in a 9 or 10 win season, he would have had a better chance of getting his feet under him and finding a path to his own kind of productivity. Fields was near useless for a year and a half before getting his feet under him. Even last year, Hurts was a limited passer. Josh Allen famously had two whole years of getting experience and reps while being pretty darn bad. Lance had far fewer reps in school than any of those dudes, and he was getting really accurate and really dangerous on down the field throws even though his timing and accuracy everywhere else was very sketchy and he was really not making anyone miss tackles as a runner (a weird inversion of his accuracy and rushing profile in college and a death knell to being able to use this particular suite of weapons). Lance hasn't been as much of a locker room or under center disaster as Zach Wilson (in a very limited sample size). But that isn't saying much and after McCaffrey, there is no more leeway. There is no more stretching your feet out to try and hold both the present and the future. It's time to win. We still need a cheap qb to afford this absurd collection of riches. But that cheap qb could even be an Andy Dalton type at this point. They just have to be able to hit simple throws in rhythm consistently. Kyle gets that much out of dudes and we have that much YAC talent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, JIllg said: Lance's got an upward climb with no more leeway. I think if he had this year to work out kinks in a 9 or 10 win season, he would have had a better chance of getting his feet under him and finding a path to his own kind of productivity. Fields was near useless for a year and a half before getting his feet under him. Even last year, Hurts was a limited passer. Josh Allen famously had two whole years of getting experience and reps while being pretty darn bad. Lance had far fewer reps in school than any of those dudes, and he was getting really accurate and really dangerous on down the field throws even though his timing and accuracy everywhere else was very sketchy and he was really not making anyone miss tackles as a runner (a weird inversion of his accuracy and rushing profile in college and a death knell to being able to use this particular suite of weapons). Lance hasn't been as much of a locker room or under center disaster as Zach Wilson (in a very limited sample size). But that isn't saying much and after McCaffrey, there is no more leeway. There is no more stretching your feet out to try and hold both the present and the future. It's time to win. We still need a cheap qb to afford this absurd collection of riches. But that cheap qb could even be an Andy Dalton type at this point. They just have to be able to hit simple throws in rhythm consistently. Kyle gets that much out of dudes and we have that much YAC talent. This is exactly it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_DeBerg_Fan_420 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, JIllg said: Lance's got an upward climb with no more leeway. I think if he had this year to work out kinks in a 9 or 10 win season, he would have had a better chance of getting his feet under him and finding a path to his own kind of productivity. Fields was near useless for a year and a half before getting his feet under him. Even last year, Hurts was a limited passer. Josh Allen famously had two whole years of getting experience and reps while being pretty darn bad. Lance had far fewer reps in school than any of those dudes, and he was getting really accurate and really dangerous on down the field throws even though his timing and accuracy everywhere else was very sketchy and he was really not making anyone miss tackles as a runner (a weird inversion of his accuracy and rushing profile in college and a death knell to being able to use this particular suite of weapons). Lance hasn't been as much of a locker room or under center disaster as Zach Wilson (in a very limited sample size). But that isn't saying much and after McCaffrey, there is no more leeway. There is no more stretching your feet out to try and hold both the present and the future. It's time to win. We still need a cheap qb to afford this absurd collection of riches. But that cheap qb could even be an Andy Dalton type at this point. They just have to be able to hit simple throws in rhythm consistently. Kyle gets that much out of dudes and we have that much YAC talent. Lance did not look good working the short game, but neither did anyone else on offense. The team was just out of sync, the blocking and timing were off, and even after JG came in, the team didn't start to look like itself offensively until around week 4 or six or so. The addition of McCaffery really make this group click. Maybe it was a team problem that has been addressed? We do need a cheap vet like you described. With Lance on the roster, there needs to be 3QB's on the 53. As far as future draft strategy, I wouldn't hate a quantity approach to the QB position. Dak Prescott was a 4th rounder. Even if an early 2nd round QB doesn't work out, it's still worth the home run swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Forge said: It's just based on a statistical probability is all (I edited it before you posted, but after you quoted) I have no idea how good / bad he will be as he doesn't have the sample size for me to really make any judgments. But we know a good chunk of QBs fail I mean it's possible, just not sure how one can say either way that he is likely to be anything at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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