hitnhope Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, minnypackerfan said: Let's hope HE thinks his best place is anyplace but Green Bay. Hopefully he decides to retire. When its about the relationships rather than the game at hand, its time to go. It was time last year. Now Gute will possibly have to try and get something for Love. and hope to find a successor in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 11 hours ago, hitnhope said: It was time last year. Now Gute will possibly have to try and get something for Love. and hope to find a successor in the draft. Why trade the guy you invested a 1st ad a 4th in plus 4 years developing? Just hang onto him for another year as a valuabel back up and then hopefully he's your guy going forward. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 12 hours ago, coachbuns said: The way Purdy has looked, I'd take him as part of the trade. Why would SF get rid of a rookie QB playing like that for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitnhope Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 45 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Why trade the guy you invested a 1st ad a 4th in plus 4 years developing? Just hang onto him for another year as a valuabel back up and then hopefully he's your guy going forward. Because Love will want to start and the Packers can't pay AR 50+ million and Love 20 million. Gute picked his successor 2 years to early. When he signed AR last year he gave up on Love. If Love doesn't demand a trade, then he isn't the future guy. He needs to be on the field now and Rodgers isn't leaving this year. I'd like to be wrong about all this, but it is playing out as I suspected since JL was drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Ideal playing spot in 2023 for Aaron ... anywhere but GB. Packers need to bite the bullet and tell #12 they are going with Love, and they will help him find a new location to play in 23'. Thank him profusely for his years of service, etc, etc. Then the Packers can create the cap room to eat the remaining 40 mil on Aaron's deal in 2023. Then in 2024 they are free and clear of Aaron Rodgers' contract, and will know whether Love and LaFleur are the people to continue forward with. Continuing forward with $60 million dollar #12 in 2023 would be idiotic. Eating 40 mil. in 2023 ain't great, but you are actually buying some draft capital, while getting out of future cap trouble. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: Why would SF get rid of a rookie QB playing like that for them? A lot of folks say let's get so-and-so in a trade without considering if that player's team is willing to let him go. It takes 2 to tango. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, {Family Ghost} said: Ideal playing spot in 2023 for Aaron ... anywhere but GB. Packers need to bite the bullet and tell #12 they are going with Love, and they will help him find a new location to play in 23'. Thank him profusely for his years of service, etc, etc. Then the Packers can create the cap room to eat the remaining 40 mil on Aaron's deal in 2023. Then in 2024 they are free and clear of Aaron Rodgers' contract, and will know whether Love and LaFleur are the people to continue forward with. Continuing forward with $60 million dollar #12 in 2023 would be idiotic. Eating 40 mil. in 2023 ain't great, but you are actually buying some draft capital, while getting out of future cap trouble. But what if they don't think Love is the answer? It is kinda telling they didn't sit Rodgers down and start Love after Aaron broke his thumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitnhope Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, {Family Ghost} said: Ideal playing spot in 2023 for Aaron ... anywhere but GB. Packers need to bite the bullet and tell #12 they are going with Love, and they will help him find a new location to play in 23'. Thank him profusely for his years of service, etc, etc. Then the Packers can create the cap room to eat the remaining 40 mil on Aaron's deal in 2023. Then in 2024 they are free and clear of Aaron Rodgers' contract, and will know whether Love and LaFleur are the people to continue forward with. Continuing forward with $60 million dollar #12 in 2023 would be idiotic. Eating 40 mil. in 2023 ain't great, but you are actually buying some draft capital, while getting out of future cap trouble. What a sad state that this is what it has come to. Gute should be fired for turning last year's opportunity into the current reality you described above. That single decision will have set the Packers back years toward the goal of winning the SB. If your reality above is correct - Why would other teams want to take on that contract? You are hoping for another team to go stupid and through charity rid the Packers of the problem their leadership group created. If they find a GM to do what you are asking for, he ought to be in the unemployment line right behind Gute. After the Russell Wilson fiasco other GM's are going to be more wary about making the kind of deal you seek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACKRULE Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 20 minutes ago, hitnhope said: What a sad state that this is what it has come to. Gute should be fired for turning last year's opportunity into the current reality you described above. That single decision will have set the Packers back years toward the goal of winning the SB. If your reality above is correct - Why would other teams want to take on that contract? You are hoping for another team to go stupid and through charity rid the Packers of the problem their leadership group created. If they find a GM to do what you are asking for, he ought to be in the unemployment line right behind Gute. After the Russell Wilson fiasco other GM's are going to be more wary about making the kind of deal you seek. Gire Gute for this come on man he answers to Murphy who orchestrated the whole thing with the board. You folks on this forum think a single person makes the decision. Shoot the board, Murphy everyone signed off on this. Why, why you ask....cause he brings them money. The club wins with AR, and that is what sells. Some people still think this is a sport not a business. When it's about dollars and cents it will always be about the best return on investment. AR while he has warts brings in money and the club likes that. Wins equal cash in bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Pugger said: But what if they don't think Love is the answer? It is kinda telling they didn't sit Rodgers down and start Love after Aaron broke his thumb. They were still mathematically alive for a playoff spot, and as Gute has said Aaron gives them their best chance to win. There wasn't any way that Rodgers was going to sit with that injury. It's possible that the Packers don't think Love can play and are just giving lip service to his improvement to try and drum up a trade market. I guess we will find out the truth soon enough. I do know that spending nearly 60 mil on Aaron Rodgers is a big mistake. Edited January 17 by {Family Ghost} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 41 minutes ago, hitnhope said: What a sad state that this is what it has come to. Gute should be fired for turning last year's opportunity into the current reality you described above. That single decision will have set the Packers back years toward the goal of winning the SB. If your reality above is correct - Why would other teams want to take on that contract? You are hoping for another team to go stupid and through charity rid the Packers of the problem their leadership group created. If they find a GM to do what you are asking for, he ought to be in the unemployment line right behind Gute. After the Russell Wilson fiasco other GM's are going to be more wary about making the kind of deal you seek. Because they only would have cap hits of 15 mil in 2023, and 31 mil in 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, hitnhope said: Because Love will want to start and the Packers can't pay AR 50+ million and Love 20 million. Gute picked his successor 2 years to early. When he signed AR last year he gave up on Love. If Love doesn't demand a trade, then he isn't the future guy. He needs to be on the field now and Rodgers isn't leaving this year. I'd like to be wrong about all this, but it is playing out as I suspected since JL was drafted. Just because Love wants a trade dosen't mean you have to trade him. Tell him one more year then you're the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) Gute needs to sit down with ol Rodg and tell him Cobb won't be here next year, Crosby won't be here next year, Jones may not be here next year, P Smith may not be here next year, Lowry and or Reed may not be here next year, Lazard likely won't be here next year. Let him provide what destinations would work for him. Based on how they handled him when he was pouting by giving him an insane bloated contract, I have a better chance of playing poker tonight with Chris Cornell, George Harrison, and Elvis later tonight after dinner. Edited January 17 by 15412 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Pugger said: But what if they don't think Love is the answer? It is kinda telling they didn't sit Rodgers down and start Love after Aaron broke his thumb. It's really not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitnhope Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 29 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Just because Love wants a trade dosen't mean you have to trade him. Tell him one more year then you're the guy. So we invest $70+ million at QB next year? AR is going away, and he isn't going to make it easy for Gute. If he isn't told he's the prettiest girl at the prom by Gute he is going to be a very complicated fella. You going to pay AR for possibly 2 more years while also tagging Love? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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