jetfuel34 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 45 minutes ago, GangGreen420 said: I would assume this means if White is healthy he plays Saleh said White has a lot of hurdels to clear before he can play. I think the jets are playing with the Jags here. I think White will start but they want the Jags to think Wilson will so they have to spend a day or 2 gaming to a running QB instead of White. This is not a bad move after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, xrade said: The D played well. The DL held Det to 107 rush yards and no TD. Det averages 123 ypg and more than a TD per game. As for the pass D, Det averages 242 ypg and more than 2 TD per game. We held them to 220 yards and 1 TD on a blown play. Det has the 8th best O and has only given up 19 sacks. Someone needs to tell me how the D lost this game or played anything but very good again sans one very bad play and a very bad time. The defense didn’t lose us the game. They gave up an untimely score, and some people don’t recognize the difference. Scoring only 17 points is why we lost 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, xrade said: The D played well. The DL held Det to 107 rush yards and no TD. Det averages 123 ypg and more than a TD per game. As for the pass D, Det averages 242 ypg and more than 2 TD per game. We held them to 220 yards and 1 TD on a blown play. Det has the 8th best O and has only given up 19 sacks. Someone needs to tell me how the D lost this game or played anything but very good again sans one very bad play and a very bad time. It is weird that he used statistic to show why we shouldn't get comfortable with White being at the helm from now on but he didn't use it to make a case to support DL. lol. What do Jets lack of defensively is a turnover. no turnover last 3 games? Edited December 19, 2022 by JetsandI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Beyond frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, GangGreen420 said: Beyond frustrating My favorite is "What the F......... Catch" pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJerseypaint Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 4 hours ago, GangGreen420 said: The defense didn’t lose us the game. They gave up an untimely score, and some people don’t recognize the difference. Scoring only 17 points is why we lost Letting a 40 yard score on 4th and 1 with less than 2 minutes to go is more than "untimely" but nonetheless, if Wilson was better, we win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, NJerseypaint said: Letting a 40 yard score on 4th and 1 with less than 2 minutes to go is more than "untimely" but nonetheless, if Wilson was better, we win. I have to give the Lions some credit on the playcall there. But we knew they were going to be aggressive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 They gave Sauce the full Revis treatment. Zero targets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekill08x Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 hours ago, GangGreen420 said: Beyond frustrating I can't think of a worse QB on third down than Zach Wilson. Like these passes aren't even close. That was one of the more noticeable differences between him and White. Zach played hard Sunday and left it all out there I will admit it, but he is still so far away from being a legitimate starter in this league. His vision is still horrendous. Again, I like that he played hard and this loss really shouldn't fall on him, but the offense was simply 4 splash plays otherwise we did not move the football and that isnt sustainable, it was actually even somewhat lucky. Gotta be able to sustain drives in this league, not just chuck it long and hope the receiver can make the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, doumeyer said: No matter who was a QB White or Wilson we would have lost the game all the blame is on the O line I’m not so sure about that. White throws a lot of quick timing passes. Zach does / can not. MLF has to try and cover Zach’s weakness which seems to be the underneath stuff. Zach’s comfort zone are routeswhich takes longer to develop. Yes, the OL is not good but quicker release passes helps to cover that. Edited December 19, 2022 by xrade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 It's hard for me to call the previous deep pass to Wilson a good throw, but I did like this one. Went exactly where and who it needed to go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 30 minutes ago, xrade said: I’m not so sure about that. White throws a lot of quick timing passes. Zach does / can not. MLF has to try and cover Zach’s weakness which seems to be the underneath stuff. Zach’s comfort zone are routeswhich takes longer to develop. Yes, the OL is not good but quicker release passes helps to cover that. It not the passing game i am worried about is the horrible running game, this group of O lineman just can't run block & and it is hurting the passing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, ekill08x said: I can't think of a worse QB on third down than Zach Wilson. Like these passes aren't even close. That was one of the more noticeable differences between him and White. Zach played hard Sunday and left it all out there I will admit it, but he is still so far away from being a legitimate starter in this league. His vision is still horrendous. Again, I like that he played hard and this loss really shouldn't fall on him, but the offense was simply 4 splash plays otherwise we did not move the football and that isnt sustainable, it was actually even somewhat lucky. Gotta be able to sustain drives in this league, not just chuck it long and hope the receiver can make the play. They say his issues are fixable but I just don’t see it. His completion % is 54. The next lowest? Freaking Baker Mayfield at 58, everyone else is 60+ (even Justin Fields completing 62%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonyankee1ny Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 The Jets had ZERO yards before contact running the ball. That speaks volumes of the state of the offensive line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt45fool Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 We definitely lost this game in the trenches. I wouldn't put it on Wilson or anyone else. The OL was below average for the 2nd week in a row. The Lions OL is elite, perhaps best in the league. Our 4 man rush wasnt getting there. That being said, Zach with good footwork is basically a rookie QB. He's got so much more upside than White. Mike White is a check down king and rarely pushes the ball downfield. I'd still rather have White start, but I think Zach needs another year to sit and learn before he can be productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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