ThanksGiving Mock. 3 Rounds.

[LinderFournette]

12 hours ago, zappa13004 said:

Me too. It was kind of a joke from the Cardinals game with Bortles running for two TDs...

I think mayfield has enough running abilities for us.  He has mobility bit he doesn't look to run. He runs but keeps eyes down the field. 

[The Gnat]

On 11/23/2017 at 11:55 AM, zappa13004 said:

Vikings : Maurice Hurst DT Michigan

Thumbs up on this pick.

On 11/23/2017 at 11:55 AM, zappa13004 said:

Vikings : Mason Cole C Michigan

Where would he play, we have a rookie center in Elflein who is performing very well this year. I'd think maybe TE here or I could see LB, DB or DE all being options over center

On 11/23/2017 at 11:55 AM, zappa13004 said:

Vikings : Ross Pierschbacher G Alabama

I like this pick a lot.

[zappa13004]

54 minutes ago, The Gnat said:

On 23/11/2017 at 6:55 PM, zappa13004 said:

Vikings : Mason Cole C Michigan

Where would he play

Cole played tackle, plays center and i assume he could play guard. Such a versatile player would be a nice add on the Oline. my opinion.

[The Gnat]

1 minute ago, zappa13004 said:

Cole played tackle, plays center and i assume he could play guard. Such a versatile player would be a nice add on the Oline. my opinion.

Cool, I wasn't sure if he was one of those players who was locked into their offensive line position, because of him being listed at C instead of OL or C/OG in your mock. I haven't seen much Michigan play in the past few seasons so know he'd played OT before. I would think he'd be able to play RG than.

[zappa13004]

51 minutes ago, The Gnat said:

Cool, I wasn't sure if he was one of those players who was locked into their offensive line position, because of him being listed at C instead of OL or C/OG in your mock. I haven't seen much Michigan play in the past few seasons so know he'd played OT before. I would think he'd be able to play RG than.

I could have listed him as an "OL". He started at center then played LT the year after and came back to center this season (not a Wolwerines' specialist but i think it is correct). I think you took 3 starters last year through FA and draft so a new guard (Pierschbacher) because both Easton and Berger will be FAs and a guy like Cole able to play where it is needed (tackle if injury of a starter, guard etc)...

[Jlash]

I don't know a TON about James Washington. I watched a couple games last year, including their bowl game. A couple this year. He's built like a RB, I'm interested to see just how fast he is. Even if Alshon gets brought back next year, I still wouldn't be opposed to seeing a WR added so I don't hate the Washington pick, I just need to watch him more.

[zappa13004]

3 minutes ago, Jlash said:

I don't know a TON about James Washington. I watched a couple games last year, including their bowl game. A couple this year. He's built like a RB, I'm interested to see just how fast he is. Even if Alshon gets brought back next year, I still wouldn't be opposed to seeing a WR added so I don't hate the Washington pick, I just need to watch him more.

I dont know how fast he is but he is explosive/dynamic. I thought about replacing Torrey Smith. Jeffery-Agholor-Hollins-Washington.

[drd23]

On 11/24/2017 at 4:55 AM, zappa13004 said:

17- Ravens : Courtland Sutton WR SMU
49- Ravens : Mark Andrews TE Oklahoma
81- Ravens : Tyrell Crosby OT Oregon

Don't know much about Crosby, but these are certainly some of the right positions that the Ravens should be drafting early, and Sutton is the sort of WR that Flacco needs to potentially return to being productive

[zappa13004]

7 hours ago, drd23 said:

Don't know much about Crosby, but these are certainly some of the right positions that the Ravens should be drafting early, and Sutton is the sort of WR that Flacco needs to potentially return to being productive

I have a question : Do you think Tim Williams could be a replacement for Terrell Suggs next year ? Suggs didn't leave yet i know.

[drd23]

1 hour ago, zappa13004 said:

I have a question : Do you think Tim Williams could be a replacement for Terrell Suggs next year ? Suggs didn't leave yet i know.

He has the talent to, but at this stage its a bit of an unknown as he hasn't had a whole heap of snaps because he's behind 3 others for pure pass rushing snaps and Dean Pees is notorious for not really rotating DL or pass rushers.

In either case, I doubt the Ravens pick another pass rusher high in the draft unless he was clearly BPA (like in a tier above all other remaining prospects)

[ttitansfan4life]

Good for the Titans. You hit on all 3 levels of the defense. Defense needs an influx of talent especially in the front 7 with aging pass-rushers and certain players limited to run downs(DaQuan Jones, Austin Johnson, etc.) Tolliver is a solid pick. Need another good CB to go with Logan Ryan and Adoree Jackson.

[FalconFan13]

On 11/26/2017 at 12:02 PM, scar988 said:

I don't think Reid is an NFL FS, nor do I think Atlanta needs a first round or even second round safety with Allen and Neal holding those spots down. The second DE doesn't make sense when you look at roster depth:

DT: Jarrett

DT/DE: Crawford, Shelby,

DE: Takk, Vic,  Reed

The real need is for a SDE for the DT/DE range, and that will be Bryan. DT is the bigger need there.

Scar pretty much nailed it for me on what i was going to say.  Im not saying Allen can't be upgraded but i am saying i don't think he needs to be and dang sure don't think we need to go round 1 on one.   Now if say a 1st or 2nd round FS dropped that was unexpected in the 3rd round i might go ahead and grab one there for depth and possibly to supplant Allen if he wants a big contract when he comes up to resign.     Also agree 2 DE's is not the way to go as our D-line depth is insane i'll take either a SDE or a DT and be pretty happy.    Now something i wouldn't be against is a OG or a CB in the earlier rounds as we can use much better depth there and possibly a starter for competition at OG.   I also would't mind another RB in this amazingly deep and talented class but probably not in the 1st round on that either.

[zappa13004]

18 hours ago, FalconFan13 said:

Scar pretty much nailed it for me on what i was going to say.  Im not saying Allen can't be upgraded but i am saying i don't think he needs to be and dang sure don't think we need to go round 1 on one.   Now if say a 1st or 2nd round FS dropped that was unexpected in the 3rd round i might go ahead and grab one there for depth and possibly to supplant Allen if he wants a big contract when he comes up to resign.     Also agree 2 DE's is not the way to go as our D-line depth is insane i'll take either a SDE or a DT and be pretty happy.    Now something i wouldn't be against is a OG or a CB in the earlier rounds as we can use much better depth there and possibly a starter for competition at OG.   I also would't mind another RB in this amazingly deep and talented class but probably not in the 1st round on that either.

I like Allen. He isn't great but good enough. About Reid i just thought about a great duo with Neal, he is big and has some speed, speed sounds like a mantra on this def with Jones, Riley, Beasley, Takk etc But i wont argue much as it wasn't a pick i absolutely want to do, just an idea among others. About G i think theres a need but as you have yet two guys who are young i was hesitant. RB ? Yes that class is great, better than last year when people said it was a great class. But im not sure about having 3 RBs, the Bengals aren't a good example of it. But sure injuries happen and especially on that position so a 3rd round pick why not ? You welcome..

[FalconFan13]

1 hour ago, zappa13004 said:

I like Allen. He isn't great but good enough. About Reid i just thought about a great duo with Neal, he is big and has some speed, speed sounds like a mantra on this def with Jones, Riley, Beasley, Takk etc But i wont argue much as it wasn't a pick i absolutely want to do, just an idea among others. About G i think theres a need but as you have yet two guys who are young i was hesitant. RB ? Yes that class is great, better than last year when people said it was a great class. But im not sure about having 3 RBs, the Bengals aren't a good example of it. But sure injuries happen and especially on that position so a 3rd round pick why not ? You welcome..

Im ok with Wes or Harlow for depth but i want a legit 1st or 2nd round quality OG in there battling with them preferably.   Ryan is getting his butt kicked routinely from that RG position plus Levitre is coming up on FA status soon i think.  Thats gonna be a ton of money we might have to pay him or we can get a OG to replace him to. 

As far as RB goes we use 3 RB's all the time and do every week here with Freeman, Coleman, and Ward.  The reason im saying a RB is 1st thats 3 concussions for Freeman in 1 season already.  2. Coleman will be coming up for a BIG PAYDAY in a season or 2 and i don't think we can or will pay both RB's big money.  3. We drafted a power back in Hill this year and he sucked so we cut him.   Im just trying to cover all my basis at that position in the next year or 2 incase catastrophe happens.  Imagine if Freeman gets a few more concussions and has to retire right after Coleman leaves for a pay day.  Then we are stuck with nothing at the RB position and we go from RB rich to RB very quickly lol. 

If i had to choose guys i would take in your 3 rounds as it sits for us i think i would go with

1st - Vita Vea - DT

2nd - Nick Chubb - RB

3rd - Ross Pierschbacher  - OG/C

Armani Watts at FS was tempting because as said allen could be upgraded and Watts is a stud but i think Chubb is a mid to late 1st round talent and late in the 2nd im taking that all day long.

[zappa13004]

4 hours ago, FalconFan13 said:

1st - Vita Vea - DT

2nd - Nick Chubb - RB

3rd - Ross Pierschbacher  - OG/C

It sounds good. Poe is playing good and it will depend on the kind of money he'll ask for, i think. With Vea, Payne and Nnadi there will be some good NTs in the next draft. Talking about coming FAs, both Gabriel and Roberts will be. And as the cap will not be great, i would not be surprised to see a C.Kirk at the end of the 1st or a D.Burnett on friday. Sure Julio and Sanu will be back and Hardy is nice but another WR with some speed would help dont you think ?