Totty Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AnAngryAmerican said: I’m not trolling you guys, but I said when McD was hired that he would find a scapegoat if the Raiders didn’t have a great season and it was almost certainly to be Carr. This is less surprising than us firing Hackett. We don't want to hear it, but you're 100%. He's just not a good coach. Edited December 28, 2022 by Totty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said: Yep my sentiments exactly. I also do feel like we're gonna try to trade for Garoppolo. You don’t have to trade for him, he will be a URFA in March. Kyle and Lynch gave him that out in the redone contract. Welcome to Vegas Jimmy G! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonGruber Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: If we cut carr and get nothing in return that’s a huge L for jmd and zieg. Absolutely call up the colts throw us Buckner lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazer026 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I’d love to know how Adams and the rest of the locker room feel about this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 This is not a scapegoat thing. Carr just didn’t play well. It’s that simple. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I’ve knew this was coming when Carr’s contract had an out after one year. He compounded it with bad play and made it easier choice. With Brady and Jimmy G FAs, it makes sense. Carr last 4 games 53% pass pct, 6TDs and 7INTs. Journeyman numbers 14 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: If we cut carr and get nothing in return that’s a huge L for jmd and zieg. We get Salary cap relief in return but teams could low ball us knowing we have a deadline to cut him and they have to take his massive extension in return. Lot to sort out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totty Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, agarcia34 said: This is not a scapegoat thing. Carr just didn’t play well. It’s that simple. I agree he didn't do well, however he's a middle of the road QB... Do you think McDaniels is a middle of the road HC? I don't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Also love this. It’s signals the end of the Derek Carr era. It’s the end of a story that needed to end 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I’m sorry @Frankie2Gunz@Humble_Beast 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 People are over estimating how the players are going to feel about Carr. Players want to win games and want all players treated equally. Carr clearly was a big reason for the last two losses. He has played bad. Jacobs was probably gonna be gone anyway. I don't think the team folds cause Carr aint playing no more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Totty said: I agree he didn't do well, however he's a middle of the road QB... Do you think McDaniels is a middle of the road HC? I don't. I don’t know if he’s a middle of the road HC. I don’t know what he is tbh. I was firm that firing him after 1 year was dumb and still believe that. I do think we saw some good out of Josh, but it was obvious that Carr was not a fit. Year 2 a lot needs to be changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, bucksavage1 said: I’ve knew this was coming when Carr’s contract had an out after one year. He compounded it with bad play and made it easier choice. With Brady and Jimmy G FAs, it makes sense. Carr last 4 games 53% pass pct, 6TDs and 7INTs. Journeyman numbers We get Salary cap relief in return but teams could low ball us knowing we have a deadline to cut him and they have to take his massive extension in return. Lot to sort out it was a rough stretch. But the man has been a leader for the organization for over 9 years. He deserves more respect. He held this team together during the Ruggs and Gruden fiasco. Tae wouldn't have taken less money to be here if it wasn't for DC. That's a slap to his face too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totty Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: I don’t know if he’s a middle of the road HC. I don’t know what he is tbh. I was firm that firing him after 1 year was dumb and still believe that. I do think we saw some good out of Josh, but it was obvious that Carr was not a fit. Year 2 a lot needs to be changed. I don't disagree, I just had issue with the "he's not a scapegoat" comment. I believe he is. Josh is the kind of guy who will throw WHOEVER under the bus to save his own ***. Derek is a good NOT GREAT QB. He was castrated by not allowing him any options at the LOS. I'll die on that sword. He is at his best when he can adjust to what he sees. Edited December 28, 2022 by Totty 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNBlackFan Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Right choice. The injury risk was too much for two meaningless games. Wish the best for Carr. Good guy, represented Raiders well. But its time to move on. Hopefully we’re able to work towards a trade amicably. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steins Gate Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Strange how it took McDummy to make this move.... I suppose I can tolerate Tom Brady as a bridge QB if he chooses to play for the Raiders. Jimmy G is a slight down grade to Carr IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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