49erscap Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) So I know it's early, but I wanted to see what people think about the team going forward in 2023, I have below my key players signed, or who I think will be re-signed, then UFAs, RFAs, & ERFAs, plus draft pick projections, and a link to my mock offseason plan. OFFENSE: QB: 13 Brock Purdy(2025) or 5 Trey Lance(2024) RB: 23 Christian McCaffrey(2025) RB: 25 Elijah Mitchell(2024), 24 Jordan Mason(2024), 32 Tyrion Davis-Price(2025) FB: 44 Kyle Juszczyk(2025) WR: 19 Deebo Samuel(2025), 3 Ray-Ray McCloud III(2023) WR: 11 Brandon Aiyuk(2024), 86 Tay Martin(2023), 84 Dazz Newsome(2023), -- Tyron Johnson(2023) WR: 15 Jauan Jennings(ERFA), 6 Danny Gray(2025) TE: 85 George Kittle(2025), 89 Charlie Woerner(2023) C 64 Jake Brendel(UFA), 67 Keith Ismael(2023) LG: 65 Aaron Banks(2024), 63 Nick Zakelj(2025) RG: 74 Spencer Burford(2025), 62 Jason Poe(2023) LT: 71 Trent Williams(2026), 78 Leroy Watson(2023) RT: 68 Colton McKivitz(RFA) or 76 Jaylon Moore(2024), 77 Alfredo Gutierrez(2023) DEFENSE: DE: 97 Nick Bosa(2023) DT: 91 Arik Armstead(2024), 90 Kevin Givens(RFA) NT: 99 Javon Kinlaw(2023), 93 Kalia Davis(2025) LEO: 95 Drake Jackson(2025), 58 Alex Barrett(2023) WLB: 57 Dre Greenlaw(2024), 59 Curtis Robinson(2023) MLB: 54 Fred Warner(2026), 48 Oren Burks(2023) SLB: 45 Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles(RFA) CB: 7 Charvarius Ward(2024), 20 Ambry Thomas(2024), 43 Qwuantrezz Knight(2023) CB: 4 Emmanuel Moseley(UFA), -- A.J. Parker(2023), -- Tre Swilling(2023) NCB: 38 Deommodore Lenoir(2024), or 26 Samuel Womack III(2025) FS: 31 Tashaun Gipson Sr.(UFA), 41 Tayler Hawkins(2023) SS: 29 Talanoa Hufanga(2024), 30 George Odum(2024) SPECIAL TEAMS: PK: 9 Robbie Gould(UFA) P: 18 Mitch Wishnowsky(2026) LS: 46 Taybor Pepper(UFA) KR/PR: 3 Ray-Ray McCloud III(2023) UFA: QB 10 Jimmy Garoppolo QB 17 Josh Johnson TE 82 Ross Dwelley TE 81 Tyler Kroft TE 88 Jordan Matthews C 64 Jake Brendel RG 60 Daniel Brunskill RT 69 Mike McGlinchey DE 56 Samson Ebukam DE 94 Charles Omenihu DE 92 Kerry Hyder Jr. DE 75 Jordan Willis DT 96 T.Y. McGill Jr. DT 96 Maurice Hurst Jr. NT 98 Hassan Ridgeway SLB 51 Azeez Al-Shaair CB 4 Emmanuel Moseley CB 2 Jason Verrett FS/CB 1 Jimmie Ward FS 31 Tashaun Gipson Sr. FS 33 Tarvarius Moore PK 9 Robbie Gould LS 46 Taybor Pepper RFA: LT 68 Colton McKivitz DT 90 Kevin Givens SLB 45 Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles ERFA: WR 15 Jauan Jennings Practice Squad: RB 28 Tevin Coleman WR 83 Willie Snead IV DE 53 Kemoko Turay DT 55 Akeem Spence SLB 40 Marcelino McCrary-Ball CB 27 Dontae Johnson (PS-IR) CB 22 Janoris Jenkins Draft Picks: 3rd-Round (Compensatory Pick for losing Robert Saleh/Martin Mayhew) 3rd-Round (Compensatory Pick for losing Mike McDaniel) 3rd-Round (Compensatory Pick for losing DeMeco Ryans/Ran Carthon) 5th-Round (Own Pick) 5th-Round (from Miami Dolphins) 5th-Round (Compensatory Pick for losing D.J. Jones) 6th-Round (Compensatory Pick for losing Arden Key) 7th-Round (Own Pick) 7th-Round (from Denver Broncos) 7th-Round (Compensatory Pick for losing K’Waun Williams) https://49erscap.com/index.php/2023-offseason-plan/ Edited February 8, 2023 by 49erscap 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinerNation21 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 I’ve been spending more time thinking about this, too, but admittedly not as much as this yet. All I know is that our biggest hole is RT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 45 minutes ago, NinerNation21 said: I’ve been spending more time thinking about this, too, but admittedly not as much as this yet. All I know is that our biggest hole is RT. McKivtiz will be a upgrade over McG. I fully expect him to be tenderd and return as the starter@RT. Hopefully Moore will be ready as the swing tackle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justone2 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 minute ago, 757-NINER said: McKivtiz will be a upgrade over McG. I fully expect him to be tenderd and return as the starter@RT. Hopefully Moore will be ready as the swing tackle. Honestly he won't but most of the downside won't be seen by most of the fan base. For all McG's faults he actually is at the worst a above average OT in the league. He probably is the best Run blocker we have and a pretty decent pass blocker. The main problem with him is that when he messes up its very out there to see. The false starts that make things harder in the red zone and when he gets beat its almost always in the ugliest way possible. The main thing with McG for me is the price tag and i think he will be paid more than he is worth for this team so i can easily see him leaving. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justone2 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 For the offseason as a whole i think RT and C are the biggest question marks on offense while the defense i can easily see us adding people in all three levels especially in the draft. D-line we have been good at finding guys that fit and get the best out of them so i don't really worry there as long as Kocurek is around. Linebackers are set for the top 2 but DFF and Burks isn't ideal if one of them goes down so spending one of our earlier picks there wouldn't suprise me one bit. CB if we can resign Moseley we are set but it still wouldn't suprise me if we added someone in the draft too to battle with Thomas, Womack and Lenoir. Safety we need to sign a guy to start next to Hufanga(either keep Gibson, Jimmy Ward or someone outside) and then we should draft someone relatively early as well(depending on value offcourse). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Justone2 said: Honestly he won't but most of the downside won't be seen by most of the fan base. For all McG's faults he actually is at the worst a above average OT in the league. He probably is the best Run blocker we have and a pretty decent pass blocker. The main problem with him is that when he messes up its very out there to see. The false starts that make things harder in the red zone and when he gets beat its almost always in the ugliest way possible. The main thing with McG for me is the price tag and i think he will be paid more than he is worth for this team so i can easily see him leaving. Assuming you mean the best run blocker MINUS 71? Because yeah lol. And McGlinchey is solid. Flawed and has bad reps at the worst times but overall you can do far worse. I just would not give him a big contract and think we can find replacement level production from someone much cheaper. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justone2 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: Assuming you mean the best run blocker MINUS 71? Because yeah lol. And McGlinchey is solid. Flawed and has bad reps at the worst times but overall you can do far worse. I just would not give him a big contract and think we can find replacement level production from someone much cheaper. Yeah 71 is a different beast in both aspects but i should have worded it better. In this system i think McG is one of the better run blockers in the league is more of how i would put it. Ultimately i think not having McGlinchey is a loss but depending on how much he gets paid i think its a spot where we can afford to go a different and cheaper direction. And looking at the contracts of OT's around the NFL i don't think what i would pay and what he will get paid is close. Edited December 29, 2022 by Justone2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straighthate Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 There’s not a hell of a lot of holes on the team so I think if someone’s there’s they want late in the second I’m not opposed to packaging some picks to move up. I think RT needs to be priority but I think that can only happen through FA or trade. So in the draft I’d prioritize an heir to start at center, some OL depth, safety, TE, and yes I would use a pick on Gould’s replacement and let him walk. I have no idea if there’s any kickers worth while but I don’t wanna pay a vet and think a mid to late round pick is worth it for a quality kicker on the cheap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Justone2 said: Honestly he won't but most of the downside won't be seen by most of the fan base. For all McG's faults he actually is at the worst a above average OT in the league. He probably is the best Run blocker we have and a pretty decent pass blocker. The main problem with him is that when he messes up its very out there to see. The false starts that make things harder in the red zone and when he gets beat its almost always in the ugliest way possible. The main thing with McG for me is the price tag and i think he will be paid more than he is worth for this team so i can easily see him leaving. Agreed. He's definitely better than he gets credit for, but he's also the resident whipping boy for a reason. He's a functional pass protector with some pretty big mistakes. I do think that he has regressed some in the run blocking game though, but the biggest thing for him may just be how glaring the mistakes are when they happen. But mostly, his value for the team just isn't worth what he'll get paid. It is worth it for several teams. Tennessee would reap substantial benefits going from Daley to McG. Chicago could use him as well. But the drop off between he and Tom Compton was somewhat negligible last year (Granted, compton was a phenomenal run blocker in his own right) and if you can do something like that, it simply isn't worth it to pay him. We've seen Kyle far too many times be able to scheme around subpar tackle play to pay out as much as we would be with both McG and Trent. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49erscap Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 Ok, question, of our UFAs, who's your guys priorities, highest to lowest, or just list of guys you think we should bring back? UFA: QB 10 Jimmy Garoppolo QB 17 Josh Johnson TE 82 Ross Dwelley TE 81 Tyler Kroft TE 88 Jordan Matthews C 64 Jake Brendel RG 60 Daniel Brunskill RT 69 Mike McGlinchey DE 56 Samson Ebukam DE 94 Charles Omenihu DE 92 Kerry Hyder Jr. DE 75 Jordan Willis DT 55 Akeem Spence DT 96 T.Y. McGill Jr. DT 96 Maurice Hurst Jr. NT 98 Hassan Ridgeway SLB 51 Azeez Al-Shaair CB 4 Emmanuel Moseley CB 2 Jason Verrett FS/CB 1 Jimmie Ward FS 31 Tashaun Gipson Sr. FS 33 Tarvarius Moore PK 9 Robbie Gould LS 46 Taybor Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIllg Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 33 minutes ago, 49erscap said: Ok, question, of our UFAs, who's your guys priorities, highest to lowest, or just list of guys you think we should bring back? UFA: QB 10 Jimmy Garoppolo QB 17 Josh Johnson TE 82 Ross Dwelley TE 81 Tyler Kroft TE 88 Jordan Matthews C 64 Jake Brendel RG 60 Daniel Brunskill RT 69 Mike McGlinchey DE 56 Samson Ebukam DE 94 Charles Omenihu DE 92 Kerry Hyder Jr. DE 75 Jordan Willis DT 55 Akeem Spence DT 96 T.Y. McGill Jr. DT 96 Maurice Hurst Jr. NT 98 Hassan Ridgeway SLB 51 Azeez Al-Shaair CB 4 Emmanuel Moseley CB 2 Jason Verrett FS/CB 1 Jimmie Ward FS 31 Tashaun Gipson Sr. FS 33 Tarvarius Moore PK 9 Robbie Gould LS 46 Taybor Pepper I think getting at least one of Moseley and Ward would be my priority. Ward especially is just a really versatile and skilled piece that would be difficult to replace and should be reasonably cheap to retain. The pass rushers should get some money and as long as Kocurek is here we can rotate a new crop of up and comers for those rotational snaps. McGlinchey is an interesting one. He’ll probably be paid more than we can afford, but I’m not sure his replacement is on the roster or a reasonable free agent or a draft pick that could reasonably start. Like, Jaylon Moore was a disaster. I guess maybe Burford could slide over? He was a tackle in college. We value guards less than tackles and guards that can play fall later. I think Brendel will be replaced by Poe or Zakelj. They’re tremendous athletes with a year in the system now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49erscap Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, JIllg said: I think getting at least one of Moseley and Ward would be my priority. Ward especially is just a really versatile and skilled piece that would be difficult to replace and should be reasonably cheap to retain. The pass rushers should get some money and as long as Kocurek is here we can rotate a new crop of up and comers for those rotational snaps. McGlinchey is an interesting one. He’ll probably be paid more than we can afford, but I’m not sure his replacement is on the roster or a reasonable free agent or a draft pick that could reasonably start. Like, Jaylon Moore was a disaster. I guess maybe Burford could slide over? He was a tackle in college. We value guards less than tackles and guards that can play fall later. I think Brendel will be replaced by Poe or Zakelj. They’re tremendous athletes with a year in the system now. Good points, I do think Brendel will be back, he's played well, they like him, so don't fix what's not broken, it's RT that's the issue. I hope we keep Moseley on a 1yr or 2yr deal, I also would love Jimmie Ward back, same with Omenihu, if it came down to him or Ebukam, I'd choose Omenihu, more versatile. I can see Hyder & Willis back too, Hyder seems most comfortable with Kocurek as his DL Coach. Also something to think about is the defensive scheme, some say we go to a 3-4 if we hire Fangio if Ryans gets a HC gig, but I just think that makes no sense, our talent suits a 4-3 scheme, Wide Zone scheme that Kocurek is so good at with his DL, I'd also like to see Gipson back. But I do hope Poe & Zakelj get some reps at C, and RG, especially if Burford is moved to RT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) The 49ers host Dallas next year. They have not beaten Dallas at home since 1997. Perhaps it's time to wear white at home against Dallas and invoke the blue jersey jinx? Of course, if the NFL had adopted a more geographically accurate alignment in 1988 after the Cardinals moved to Phoenix, with the Steelers going to the AFC East, the Chiefs and Colts to the AFC Central, the Buccaneers and Falcons to the NFC West, the Saints to the NFC Central, and the Cardinals and Cowboys to the NFC West, beginning in 1988 the 49ers and Cowboys would have met twice a year until the 2002 realignment (with some events in this alternate timeline differing from what actually happened, like the new home city for the Rams in 1995, it's now Portland, Oregon instead of St. Louis). The 49ers and Cowboys had several playoff meetings earlier in the post-merger era, like the game with "The Catch", and placing them in the same division could have worked to ABC's advantage when the Cowboys became contenders again in 1990. Beginning in 1991, ABC and the NFC network (CBS from 1991-93, Fox thereafter) could have each aired one of the games every year, possibly through 2000. The Cowboys' return to MNF in 1991 after a two-season absence could have been at home against the 49ers. Odd years would have seen ABC airing the Cowboys-hosted game and the NFC network the 49ers-hosted game, and vice versa for even years, with the games on the NFC network always called by Pat Summerall and John Madden. Troy Aikman and Steve Young being in the same division could have been good for the NFL. In reality, because this realignment never happened, this rivalry was never on ABC when their lead team was Al Michaels, Frank Gifford, and Dan Dierdorf, which they felt must have been insulting as 49ers-Cowboys was the premier non-division rivalry of the 90s. Edited December 31, 2022 by pf9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinerNation21 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 On 12/30/2022 at 4:32 PM, 49erscap said: Ok, question, of our UFAs, who's your guys priorities, highest to lowest, or just list of guys you think we should bring back? UFA list: QB 10 Jimmy Garoppolo - No. Collect the comp pick QB 17 Josh Johnson - No TE 82 Ross Dwelley - No TE 81 Tyler Kroft - Probably, he's beaten out Woerner for the TE2 role and has done a nice job. I would not guarantee him the same role next season, though. TE 88 Jordan Matthews - No C 64 Jake Brendel - Yes. He's played well and I think his best football is ahead of him. RG 60 Daniel Brunskill - Yes. He's too valuable to let walk. RT 69 Mike McGlinchey - Yes, IF I could not quickly land an upgrade in FA or trade early in the off-season. DE 56 Samson Ebukam - Yes, unless his market gets too robust DE 94 Charles Omenihu - Yes, unless someone else overpays DE 92 Kerry Hyder Jr. - Probably not. But, if he's still unsigned later into FA, then I'd probably bring him back to compete for a spot. DE 75 Jordan Willis - Probably, but I'd see what I could bring in as an upgrade first DT 55 Akeem Spence - Probably not, but if he's unsigned as we get to training camp, then I'd give him a shot DT 96 T.Y. McGill Jr. - Yes DT 96 Maurice Hurst Jr. - Yes NT 98 Hassan Ridgeway - Probably SLB 51 Azeez Al-Shaair - Yes CB 4 Emmanuel Moseley - Yes CB 2 Jason Verrett - No, unfortunately FS/CB 1 Jimmie Ward - Yes FS 31 Tashaun Gipson Sr. - Yes FS 33 Tarvarius Moore - No PK 9 Robbie Gould - Probably LS 46 Taybor Pepper - Yes For me, I'm going into this off-season looking to upgrade RT and maintain quality depth on the DL as my top 2 priorities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49erscap Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, NinerNation21 said: QB 10 Jimmy Garoppolo - No. Collect the comp pick QB 17 Josh Johnson - No TE 82 Ross Dwelley - No TE 81 Tyler Kroft - Probably, he's beaten out Woerner for the TE2 role and has done a nice job. I would not guarantee him the same role next season, though. TE 88 Jordan Matthews - No C 64 Jake Brendel - Yes. He's played well and I think his best football is ahead of him. RG 60 Daniel Brunskill - Yes. He's too valuable to let walk. RT 69 Mike McGlinchey - Yes, IF I could not quickly land an upgrade in FA or trade early in the off-season. DE 56 Samson Ebukam - Yes, unless his market gets too robust DE 94 Charles Omenihu - Yes, unless someone else overpays DE 92 Kerry Hyder Jr. - Probably not. But, if he's still unsigned later into FA, then I'd probably bring him back to compete for a spot. DE 75 Jordan Willis - Probably, but I'd see what I could bring in as an upgrade first DT 55 Akeem Spence - Probably not, but if he's unsigned as we get to training camp, then I'd give him a shot DT 96 T.Y. McGill Jr. - Yes DT 96 Maurice Hurst Jr. - Yes NT 98 Hassan Ridgeway - Probably SLB 51 Azeez Al-Shaair - Yes CB 4 Emmanuel Moseley - Yes CB 2 Jason Verrett - No, unfortunately FS/CB 1 Jimmie Ward - Yes FS 31 Tashaun Gipson Sr. - Yes FS 33 Tarvarius Moore - No PK 9 Robbie Gould - Probably LS 46 Taybor Pepper - Yes For me, I'm going into this off-season looking to upgrade RT and maintain quality depth on the DL as my top 2 priorities. Agreed on everything, I'm iffy on Gould. I'd love Ward back, but idk if he stays or gets a bigger deal elsewhere. I think guys like Spence, & McGill can be had for 1yr vet minimum deals. But time to get rid of the Dwelley's, Moore's, Verrett's, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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