jpaulthe1st Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: I love how you view me as some kind of McDaniels/Graham homer when all my argument has ever been is let's see how they perform when they have talent to work with. I'll be first in line next season if I don't see marked improvement. The Oline and injuries robbed us of seeing what the offense could've truly been, though we saw glimpses. The defense never had a chance. The wasted resources there under Gruden robbed that unit of any starting level talent and poor depth. We were lying to ourselves trying to pretend guys like Averette, Brown, Nichols, etc would be a net positive. We knew how this was going to go. The coaching left a lot to be desired and the talent sucks. Both things are true. Agreed. It seems like there is little appetite for well reasoned, logical takes in the discussions on this forum. Either you are supposed to blindly blame our struggles on JMD and PG without any regard for the mess they inherited or blindly blame Carr without regard for the mismanagement of resources during his time here. The reality is they are all being scapegoated for the awful job that Gruden and Mayock did with 5 1st round picks in two years. At times there is great discussion on this forum but most of the time it’s bickering about semantics between two parties that both have at least partially valid points. Edited January 9 by jpaulthe1st 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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