RaidersAreOne Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Was a huge Edmunds fan when he was coming out too. There's so nice young players out there this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101Raider Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Humble_Beast said: I think we can upgrade Stidham, Elu, Hollins, Harmon for cheaper and better guys. I disagree, I think we can certainly get better guys, but not at their pricing as I think they'll be fairly cheap as low end starters or simply as better depth. Would I like to improve all of those positions, abso-freakin-lutely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101Raider Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Was a huge Edmunds fan when he was coming out too. There's so nice young players out there this year. I agree, kinda nice to have some funds to go get some young guys that could end up being core players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, 101Raider said: I disagree, I think we can certainly get better guys, but not at their pricing as I think they'll be fairly cheap as low end starters or simply as better depth. Would I like to improve all of those positions, abso-freakin-lutely. well I disagree with you too! Hollins could easily get paid. Harmon and Elu too, players are like stocks. A player can have a good season and his stock soars and they cash out. There could be more talented players who were hurt or in a bad system, just ready to shine on a different team. It's about finding those diamonds in the rough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share Posted March 8, 2023 49 minutes ago, Humble_Beast said: well I disagree with you too! Hollins could easily get paid. Harmon and Elu too, players are like stocks. A player can have a good season and his stock soars and they cash out. There could be more talented players who were hurt or in a bad system, just ready to shine on a different team. It's about finding those diamonds in the rough Who are the players that would be better and cheaper ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 I don't look for the Raiders to be big players in FA. The emphasis seems to be on homegrown talent and laying a foundation for the future. I can see them having a few key additions to the defense which is largely lacking talent, but don't expect any massive deals on the top guys. And I expect a certain type when signed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: I don't look for the Raiders to be big players in FA. The emphasis seems to be on homegrown talent and laying a foundation for the future. I can see them having a few key additions to the defense which is largely lacking talent, but don't expect any massive deals on the top guys. And I expect a certain type when signed. It will be pretty funny if we do in fact take a conservative, modest approach to this off season given the absolute massive swings we took last year trading a 1st + 2nd for a WR and giving Chandler Jones an insane contract. Long term I hope build via the draft naturally but our current roster is so flawed in the sense we have holes at every single level, yet have such high-end talent at spots in Adams, Jacobs, Crosby, the best ST unit, etc. We almost need to "win now" with Adams and co. but it would be impossible to field a complete roster in one off season. I hope Ziegler and McD have their heads on right as this is a franchise altering offseason. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101Raider Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 22 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: It will be pretty funny if we do in fact take a conservative, modest approach to this off season given the absolute massive swings we took last year trading a 1st + 2nd for a WR and giving Chandler Jones an insane contract. Long term I hope build via the draft naturally but our current roster is so flawed in the sense we have holes at every single level, yet have such high-end talent at spots in Adams, Jacobs, Crosby, the best ST unit, etc. We almost need to "win now" with Adams and co. but it would be impossible to field a complete roster in one off season. I hope Ziegler and McD have their heads on right as this is a franchise altering offseason. I think this pretty much sums up the current state of our franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Dessie said: Who are the players that would be better and cheaper ? He won't respond because he doesn't think before he post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 hours ago, big_palooka said: I don't look for the Raiders to be big players in FA. The emphasis seems to be on homegrown talent and laying a foundation for the future. I can see them having a few key additions to the defense which is largely lacking talent, but don't expect any massive deals on the top guys. And I expect a certain type when signed. I think we'll do a lot of mid-tier signings. Like good players but not stars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I think we'll do a lot of mid-tier signings. Like good players but not stars. i always liked Reggies way of handling FA, fill needs with starter types. His problem was he couldnt draft. Fill holes in FA with established vets that fit the system/culture, draft BPA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: It will be pretty funny if we do in fact take a conservative, modest approach to this off season given the absolute massive swings we took last year trading a 1st + 2nd for a WR and giving Chandler Jones an insane contract. Long term I hope build via the draft naturally but our current roster is so flawed in the sense we have holes at every single level, yet have such high-end talent at spots in Adams, Jacobs, Crosby, the best ST unit, etc. We almost need to "win now" with Adams and co. but it would be impossible to field a complete roster in one off season. I hope Ziegler and McD have their heads on right as this is a franchise altering offseason. How is it a "franchise altering offseason"? Feels more of the same, expect they finally got rid of the mid QB. They have to draft well... simple as that. That is what's been the problem with this organization for 20 years. Honestly.... I might just YOLO and get Lamar. He makes them instantly better. Contract aside, 7 this year and next year you're picking in the 20's is cheap for a 26 year old with his skill set. He's a natural leader, wants to be great, pushes teammates and guys love him. Lamar, get a couple pieces on defense and go full send.... don't be scared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 40 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I think we'll do a lot of mid-tier signings. Like good players but not stars. Same. Spot starters while they attempt to draft and develop some home growns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share Posted March 8, 2023 Some under the radar FA signings. Rashem Green DE Nate Herbig OG Oli Udoh RT Cole Holcomb MLB Dan Arnold TE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, big_palooka said: How is it a "franchise altering offseason"? Feels more of the same, expect they finally got rid of the mid QB. They have to draft well... simple as that. That is what's been the problem with this organization for 20 years. Honestly.... I might just YOLO and get Lamar. He makes them instantly better. Contract aside, 7 this year and next year you're picking in the 20's is cheap for a 26 year old with his skill set. He's a natural leader, wants to be great, pushes teammates and guys love him. Lamar, get a couple pieces on defense and go full send.... don't be scared. What you just described is franchise altering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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