big_palooka Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 15 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: We saved the money to move on. I think to move on without a clear plan was idiotic. I'll stand by that. Where are those savings going? If we signed Javon Hargrave with that 20 mil, that would be one thing. But Facyson/Epps/Spilane is our free agency haul? Man idk Counterpoint: The Gruden way Trent Brown, 4 years, $66M Tyrell Williams, 4-$44.3M LaMarcus Joyner, 4-$42M Cory Littleton, 3-$32.25M Carl Nassib, 3-$25.25M Nick Kwiatkoski, 3-$21M Tahir Whitehead, 3-$19M Not saying this regimes approach will work, but half the FA signings are a bust for teams. They want to take a build through the draft approach, that's great if they can crush the draft. I don't get to worked up with FA, because nothing good ever comes of winning the FA period. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Counterpoint: The Gruden way Trent Brown, 4 years, $66M Tyrell Williams, 4-$44.3M LaMarcus Joyner, 4-$42M Cory Littleton, 3-$32.25M Carl Nassib, 3-$25.25M Nick Kwiatkoski, 3-$21M Tahir Whitehead, 3-$19M Not saying this regimes approach will work, but half the FA signings are a bust for teams. They want to take a build through the draft approach, that's great if they can crush the draft. I don't get to worked up with FA, because nothing good ever comes of winning the FA period. Some of those were just bad signings. We all knew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Some of those were just bad signings. We all knew. Sure, and some like Littleton, Joyner and Kwaitkoski were seen as big upgrades that bombed and in the case of Littleton are still paying for until 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Sure, and some like Littleton, Joyner and Kwaitkoski were seen as big upgrades that bombed and in the case of Littleton are still paying for until 2025. I still don't understand how littleton just fell off a cliff. He was so good in coverage for the Rams and looked like a bum for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I still don't understand how littleton just fell off a cliff. He was so good in coverage for the Rams and looked like a bum for us. The difference between us and having Donald/Brockers in front of him and Wade Phillips as a DC. I still loathe that Guenther was our DC once upon a time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 2 hours ago, big_palooka said: Counterpoint: The Gruden way Trent Brown, 4 years, $66M Tyrell Williams, 4-$44.3M LaMarcus Joyner, 4-$42M Cory Littleton, 3-$32.25M Carl Nassib, 3-$25.25M Nick Kwiatkoski, 3-$21M Tahir Whitehead, 3-$19M Not saying this regimes approach will work, but half the FA signings are a bust for teams. They want to take a build through the draft approach, that's great if they can crush the draft. I don't get to worked up with FA, because nothing good ever comes of winning the FA period. True. I understand it’s natural to get envious when seeing other team spend in FA like the Broncos but there’s other ways to build a team What’s ironic is that when these high priced FAs don’t live up to expectations, everyone wants to just build through the draft as the alternative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 We're hosting TE OJ Howard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 OJ Howard anyone? He’s a few years removed from Achilles injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 minute ago, bucksavage1 said: True. I understand it’s natural to get envious when seeing other team spend in FA like the Broncos but there’s other ways to build a team What’s ironic is that when these high priced FAs don’t live up to expectations, everyone wants to just build through the draft as the alternative What's even more ironic is when they want to build through the draft but then narrow down 1 player, which pretty much necessitates going after proven FA talent so we're not wasting the 1 player we went after. Can't build through high priced FA's left and right, but you can't build through the draft 1 or maybe 2 decent picks at a time either. Though everyone says "wait til tier 2 of FA"....but then you're getting tier 2 players and probably overpaying them as well anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 minute ago, bucksavage1 said: OJ Howard anyone? He’s a few years removed from Achilles injury Couldn't hurt. Got boxed out in Tampa, but it was for Gronk and Co and I can't really hate a guy for not being Gronk. Especially in an Arians offense. Been a few years since he was really effective, but there's some potential left to explore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101Raider Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, bucksavage1 said: OJ Howard anyone? He’s a few years removed from Achilles injury Loved him a couple of years ago. Hope he still has some juice in the tank, if so I’m totally on board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Feel bad for Adam’s who only has a couple years left that has to spend the last of his elite years on a team that has no interest in winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: What's even more ironic is when they want to build through the draft but then narrow down 1 player, which pretty much necessitates going after proven FA talent so we're not wasting the 1 player we went after. Can't build through high priced FA's left and right, but you can't build through the draft 1 or maybe 2 decent picks at a time either. Though everyone says "wait til tier 2 of FA"....but then you're getting tier 2 players and probably overpaying them as well anyway. The Rams first approach was to build through the draft. They always found gems like John Johnson, Joyner, Middleton , Higbee, Everette. That’s how we ended up with guys like Joyner and Middleton lol. Perhaps that’s what Ziegs is trying to do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 minute ago, agarcia34 said: Feel bad for Adam’s who only has a couple years left that has to spend the last of his elite years on a team that has no interest in winning. I don’t know man, Signing Jimmy G ,Meyers and franchising Jacobs tells me their trying to win as well as build a roster long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, 101Raider said: Loved him a couple of years ago. Hope he still has some juice in the tank, if so I’m totally on board. He played well in Houston with sporadic QB play. Could be an underrated addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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