Geezy Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Smart to prepare for disappointment if it's Jimmy safe to say. Would much rather trade up for young/stroud, even though I hate trading up. Only reason I wouldn’t hate Jimmy is to prevent trading up. I don’t think we’re in the position to give up assets like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilshark69 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 If mcdummy is so smart, and can tailor an offense for Newton one year and for a rookie Mac Jones the next year.... then why are we seemingly limited to Brady or garoppolo? And yes I get that we’re not, it’s more the media at this point and “connecting dots” , but we say outta one side of the mouth offensive genius and the other these guys are familiar with the system. And yes, I get it, it’s the pressure to win. But Davis also said he trusts the vision blah,blah blah!! Davis wants Brady to fill seats with what? Half *ss raider fans sporting their brand new Tom terrific jerseys? I truly can’t wait to see how this garbage unfolds. I pray to the football gods that DZ does a good job this offseason. He’s got one heck of a difficult task ahead. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Geezy said: Super Bowl level game manager, chances are he won’t have the same level of supporting cast if he comes here. Jimmy isn’t the type of QB you build a game plan around. We have Adams, Waller, Renfrow, and Jacobs. Pretty good supporting cast, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Devilshark69 said: If mcdummy is so smart, and can tailor an offense for Newton one year and for a rookie Mac Jones the next year.... then why are we seemingly limited to Brady or garoppolo? And yes I get that we’re not, it’s more the media at this point and “connecting dots” , but we say outta one side of the mouth offensive genius and the other these guys are familiar with the system. And yes, I get it, it’s the pressure to win. But Davis also said he trusts the vision blah,blah blah!! Davis wants Brady to fill seats with what? Half *ss raider fans sporting their brand new Tom terrific jerseys? I truly can’t wait to see how this garbage unfolds. I pray to the football gods that DZ does a good job this offseason. He’s got one heck of a difficult task ahead. Outside of those 2 what other top tier, proven QBs are going to be available in free agency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: We have Adams, Waller, Renfrow, and Jacobs. Pretty good supporting cast, imo. Minus the OL and defense. You want Jimmy to get in a shootout behind our OL? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilshark69 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 9 hours ago, NYRaider said: Outside of those 2 what other top tier, proven QBs are going to be available in free agency? So now garoppolo is top tier? Lol. Do me a favor and don’t recopy the stats you already posted. For the record sir, I’m ok with Brady (hoping he stays healthy) but I simply don’t want jimmy g. And that’s not really what my post was about anyway, but thanks for playin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilshark69 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I’d rather sign minshew than garoppolo, but that’s just me, my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 4:51 AM, Devilshark69 said: So now garoppolo is top tier? Lol. Do me a favor and don’t recopy the stats you already posted. For the record sir, I’m ok with Brady (hoping he stays healthy) but I simply don’t want jimmy g. And that’s not really what my post was about anyway, but thanks for playin. He's proven to be a starting QB for a winning organization over the last few seasons, so I'd say he's a top tier FA QB. How often do guys that have been productive starters for 13-3 Super Bowl teams hit free agency in their prime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/9/2023 at 7:45 PM, Geezy said: Minus the OL and defense. You want Jimmy to get in a shootout behind our OL? Are the Raiders the only team in the NFL that is required to ignore all of their roster issues this offseason? Or are we allowed to draft/sign players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 4:54 AM, Devilshark69 said: I’d rather sign minshew than garoppolo, but that’s just me, my opinion. I think it's a pipe dream to think JMD and Ziegler would hitch their wagon to Minshew when they could both be on the hot seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilshark69 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Cmon man, in the initial post you said “top tier” now answering my post it’s “top tier FA” and he’s been on multiple teams with not good but GREAT defenses. I ain’t gonna argue this, he’s no different than Carr and imo, not as talented. Gimme Brady if it GOTTA be a system familiar guy, otherwise I’d gamble on someone like minshew or draft a top prospect. One thing no one can argue about with Carr is his availability, the same cannot be said for jimmy G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilshark69 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I think it's a pipe dream to think JMD and Ziegler would hitch their wagon to Minshew when they could both be on the hot seat. I don’t disagree with that one bit. But injury history says jimmy is a HUGE gamble for a must win now situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Devilshark69 said: I don’t disagree with that one bit. But injury history says jimmy is a HUGE gamble for a must win now situation. It looks like we're fully committed to pursuing TB12. I just hope that we land him because we could be screwed if he retires/signs elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Devilshark69 said: Cmon man, in the initial post you said “top tier” now answering my post it’s “top tier FA” and he’s been on multiple teams with not good but GREAT defenses. I ain’t gonna argue this, he’s no different than Carr and imo, not as talented. Gimme Brady if it GOTTA be a system familiar guy, otherwise I’d gamble on someone like minshew or draft a top prospect. One thing no one can argue about with Carr is his availability, the same cannot be said for jimmy G. Multiple NFL people have expressed nearly the same observation as me regarding Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo. One assistant general manager said: "They are close to being the same guy. Derek fell off in a big way this year, but no one takes into account the offense. I know if Derek Carr couldn't run the Raiders offense the way Josh wanted, neither will a constantly injured Jimmy." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilshark69 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Yep, unfortunately we got a farms worth of eggs in the Brady basket. Ya think MD has talked to Dana about setting this up? 🤣🤣🤣 just joking, but would that be considered tampering? 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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