Humble_Beast Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 https://247sports.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/Bolt/Oakland-Raiders-LB-Bruce-Irvin-leaves-practice-Wednesday-over-Ken-Norton-firing-110911881 Has Jack lost the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chali21 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 20 minutes ago, Humble_Beast said: https://247sports.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/Bolt/Oakland-Raiders-LB-Bruce-Irvin-leaves-practice-Wednesday-over-Ken-Norton-firing-110911881 Has Jack lost the team? Read twitter, both Mack and Irvin came back yesterday. Most beat writers believe JDR is safe because of his contract. Mark Davis won't want to pay him to not coach the raiders unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 If the Raiders lose the next two (DEN, NYG) then I say yes (as in the seat is hot) regardless of financials. Otherwise, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Del Rio isn't going anywhere even if the season goes down from here. Irvin needs to play better if he didn't want Norton fired. Mack has always been a team leader and will be fine. If he's really PO'd than I'd not resign and just trade him for some picks to rebuild the Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I think JDR needs to follow KNJ to the unemployment line. However, I think he’s safe unless the Raiders go 0-6 or 1-5 in their final 6 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 4 hours ago, SBXISBXVSBXVIII said: I think JDR needs to follow KNJ to the unemployment line. However, I think he’s safe unless the Raiders go 0-6 or 1-5 in their final 6 games. I agree pretty much completely with this statement. 11 hours ago, G said: Del Rio isn't going anywhere even if the season goes down from here. Irvin needs to play better if he didn't want Norton fired. Mack has always been a team leader and will be fine. If he's really PO'd than I'd not resign and just trade him for some picks to rebuild the Defense. I completely disagree with the bolded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I disagree with it too, because it's not like Mack to be like that. If he's changed due to other influences then I can move on with major compensation. All hypotheticals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTrainLane Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 9 hours ago, G said: I disagree with it too, because it's not like Mack to be like that. If he's changed due to other influences then I can move on with major compensation. All hypotheticals. Wait...you disagree with...yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chali21 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Personally I think that JDR will be judged by the defenses performance which I think he can pin the problems on both a lack of talent and Norton. As for the offense he could say downing was in over his head and will be replaced. I think JDR is the Jason Garrett of the AFC, he’ll be good if the staff and players around him are at an elite level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 If we do fire JDR, who would we bring in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 50 minutes ago, Jerry said: If we do fire JDR, who would we bring in? Shouldn't be hard to find coach that's an upgrade over JDR. Josh McDaniels if he's learned to be relatable to players could be fun lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Shouldn't be hard to find coach that's an upgrade over JDR. Josh McDaniels if he's learned to be relatable to players could be fun lol Patriots coordinators are typically terrible once they leave New England and B. Belichick. B. Belichick turns every coordinator into a hot commodity. I'd rather go with the OC for the Eagles or the Vikings. Maybe even look into the DC of the Jaguars. We should also look into hiring Mike Vrabel, DC for the Texans, for the HC position if we do end up firing JDR in the near future. Just throwing some names out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chali21 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Jerry said: Patriots coordinators are typically terrible once they leave New England and B. Belichick. B. Belichick turns every coordinator into a hot commodity. I'd rather go with the OC for the Eagles or the Vikings. Maybe even look into the DC of the Jaguars. We should also look into hiring Mike Vrabel, DC for the Texans, for the HC position if we do end up firing JDR in the near future. Just throwing some names out there. Plus it’s pretty evident that he wants to be the Patriots HC after Belichek retires. Thing that’s really important is having a HC who understands the whole GAME not just a guy who’s a good play caller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Coaching is a bit of a crapshoot. It's largely based on talent and culture of the organization how successful the coach can be. As fans, hard to know the inner workings of the man himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTrainLane Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 hours ago, big_palooka said: Shouldn't be hard to find coach that's an upgrade over JDR. Josh McDaniels if he's learned to be relatable to players could be fun lol I don't think having a personality is something you can learn haha. He was just an ******* by all accounts but it's shielded in the disciplined environment of NE with Belicheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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