Ozzy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/9/2023 at 10:58 AM, VikeManDan said: Thanks for this, I was wondering who might be playing that didn't play in the Christmas Eve matchup. From a Vikings perspective: + Irv Smith Jr. - Brian O'Neill (RT) and Austin Schlottmann (OC) ??? Akayleb Evans (CB) and Garrett Bradbury (OC) Who am I missing guys? Honestly the first time the Vikings Giants played, the Giants beat them up and tackled extremely well and aggressively. Dexter Lawrence is going to destroy Reed at center and even if Bradbury plays he will destroy him as well. If Leonard Williams can play that will be a massive problem. Jihad Ward played well the first time out, Thibodeaux will be a big problem and even the rookie on the Giants McFadden provides some solid pass rush as well. The Giants have a more physical and tough team and if they can slow down the game, get an early lead and lean on the run game the Vikings could be in trouble. It would be nice if the Vikings committed to the run game, it would help out that crap D they have and would shorten the game up. But with that many injuries on the OL they probably will not be able to do it. Odd to say but the Giants seem to have a stable identity with how they play the game. Not sure what the identity of the Vikings is exactly outside of get the ball to Justin Jefferson. It is one of the oddest seasons the Vikings have ever had, on paper the record is great but odd to say because one still does not know exactly what this team is. Their only blowout dominating win all season was the first game against Green Bay which was legit, then they got totally blowout in two of their games and all the rest were only won by one score, then the last game against Chicago was their 2nd blowout win, which was not legit because the Bears had a crappy backup QB in the game and backup defensive backs all over. Hell Harrison Hand played for the Bears and got what 9 tackles? And Greg Stroman Jr I did not even think was in the NFL anymore, basically wasn't outside of that one game, and Elijah Hicks at safety is beyond suspect. So very odd season, and also was 38 rush attempts for the Vikings a season high? I believe they were in the 20s before per game rush attempts, which was bottom three worst in the league in terms of fewest rush attempts per game in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticNorseman Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 The Giants defense was good the last time we faced them. Were they the toughest all year? I think both squads are battle tested . . . We played each team in their division. I thought the Bills, Jets, Commanders, Philly and Dallas each played great defensive football against our Vikings. The Lions played really well both times. We've faced elite defenses . . . And beat most of them. That said, O'Neill blocked Von Miller and whoever while CD takes care of business. Now, we get to see if Uli has grown into the stingy monster his draft profile showed he could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Dalvin's time to eat! (Hopefully both Dalvins lol) @ArcticNorsemanback in like 2005 we beat the Giants with a Defensive TD, KR TD and PR TD. Brad Johnson at the time was checking down more frequently than Sam Bradford did and we hardly moved the ball at all on offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vikesfan89 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, SteelKing728 said: Dalvin's time to eat! (Hopefully both Dalvins lol) @ArcticNorsemanback in like 2005 we beat the Giants with a Defensive TD, KR TD and PR TD. Brad Johnson at the time was checking down more frequently than Sam Bradford did and we hardly moved the ball at all on offense. That was a fun game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 I mean, it wasn’t all that loud that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, gopherwrestler said: I mean, it wasn’t all that loud that game. And as I understand, there were various reasons for that. I'd have to think it's going to be a little different this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JDBrocks Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 absolutely no shame. He should be no lower than 8th on this list. I don't think I would do it, but there's an argument to be made that if you take this season in a vacuum he's 6th. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: absolutely no shame. He should be no lower than 8th on this list. I don't think I would do it, but there's an argument to be made that if you take this season in a vacuum he's 6th. And I'm not sure you can state Lamar Jackson is the starting QB because last I checked, he's likely not playing this weekend. I suppose it depends upon the criteria, but neither Daniel Jones, Trevor Lawrence, nor Geno Smith have ever even played in a playoff game. I like Dan, but that's actually fairly disrespectful to both Kirk and Dak. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VikeManDan Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Small sample size, as both are rookie HC's, but here is how KO and Daboll fared in their 2nd matchups within the division. KO: 1-2 (3-0 in first matchups) Daboll: 1-2 (0-2-1 in first matchups) Seems Daboll and the Giants struggled just as much as the Vikings in those divisional rematches. Granted they had 2 playoff teams to contend with. Awfully quiet in here this week.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotanKing Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 5 hours ago, JDBrocks said: absolutely no shame. He should be no lower than 8th on this list. I don't think I would do it, but there's an argument to be made that if you take this season in a vacuum he's 6th. Not sure I agree about Geno Smith but Daniel Jones has played better than Kirk this season. I'd probably have Cousins at 9th or 10th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, SotanKing said: Not sure I agree about Geno Smith but Daniel Jones has played better than Kirk this season. I'd probably have Cousins at 9th or 10th For the playoffs? Daniel Jones, Geno Smith, Trevor Lawrence, and Justin Herbert have never even been to the playoffs, much less won a playoff game. Daniel Jones also did not play better than Kirk in the regular season. Not sure how anyone would come to that conclusion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Daniel Jones played in 16 games and only threw for 3200 yards? Kind of surprising that you can get by on such low volume passing in today's NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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