Louis Friend Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: Returning To School https://www.the33rdteam.com/category/nfl-draft-2/2023-nfl-draft-underclassmen-declaration-tracker/ Rome Odunze, WR, Washington (Jan. 12) Spencer Rattler, QB, South Carolina (Jan. 10) Benjamin Yurosek, TE, Stanford (Jan. 9) Blake Corum, RB, Michigan (Jan. 9) Cade Stover, TE, Ohio State (Jan. 9) Jared Verse, DE, Florida State (Jan. 7) Cooper Beebe, OL, Kansas State (Jan. 7) Layden Robinson, iOL, Texas A&M (Jan. 5) Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU (Dec. 22) Bralen Trice, DE, Washington (Dec. 19) Zion Tupuola-Fetui, DE, Washington (Dec. 19) Bo Nix, QB, Oregon (Dec. 18) Michael Penix Jr., QB, Washington (Dec. 4) Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State (Nov. 28) Beebe and Robinson biggest bummers for me. Makes RG picks even more hit or miss. I think O'Cyrus Torrence could be in play at #18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superduperman Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Louis Friend said: Beebe and Robinson biggest bummers for me. Makes RG picks even more hit or miss. I think O'Cyrus Torrence could be in play at #18. I remain convinced their Plan A will be to bring Vaitai back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 12 hours ago, Superduperman said: I remain convinced their Plan A will be to bring Vaitai back. It wouldn't shock me but also he isn't a DC/Holmes guy in the first place. He did have a solid yet unspectacular 2021 so it wouldn't shock me and given his dead money being there either way, he is only costing $7M for us. But I think we may be more likely to re-sign Brown to a similar contract to what we would save from Vatai if the injury concerns are serious long term since back injuries are tough to come back from and be dependable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 44 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: It wouldn't shock me but also he isn't a DC/Holmes guy in the first place. He did have a solid yet unspectacular 2021 so it wouldn't shock me and given his dead money being there either way, he is only costing $7M for us. But I think we may be more likely to re-sign Brown to a similar contract to what we would save from Vatai if the injury concerns are serious long term since back injuries are tough to come back from and be dependable. I want Brown to come back but I have a feeling that he's going to want a shot at a starting gig (more likely OC but open to OG) with another team. I think he did a solid enough job filling in for Ragnow that some team will give him a bit more than we can as a principal back-up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Karnage84 said: I want Brown to come back but I have a feeling that he's going to want a shot at a starting gig (more likely OC but open to OG) with another team. I think he did a solid enough job filling in for Ragnow that some team will give him a bit more than we can as a principal back-up. I think if we brought him back it would be as a starter at RG and we would release HV. It will probably be a wash financially but safer with Vaitai's injury risk with the back. I'd rather pay another RG but don't want to break the bank either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 26 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: I think if we brought him back it would be as a starter at RG and we would release HV. It will probably be a wash financially but safer with Vaitai's injury risk with the back. I'd rather pay another RG but don't want to break the bank either. What I want to happen vs what I think will happen are two different things. I'd like for us to keep Brown but I feel like he's a decent candidate to go out the door. Either: a) We cut Vaitai and re-sign Brown or b) We keep Vaitai and draft an OG knowing he's more likely a cap casualty next year (either way) and for insurance in event of injury this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnivolcm Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that the Cardinals are hiring Lions director of college scouting Dave Sears as their assistant G.M. Quote Sears joined the Lions as a scout in 2007 and moved to the director of college scouting role in 2019. He worked for Houston and Washington before making his way to Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I was curious to see how Holmes' draft classes would break down in terms of conference. 2021 Big Ten - 1 ACC - 2 PAC-12 - 4 SEC - 0 Big 12 - 0 FCS - 0 2022 Big Ten - 2 ACC - 1 PAC-12 - 1 SEC - 2 Big 12 - 1 FCS - 1 TOTAL (YTD) Big Ten - 3 ACC - 3 PAC-12 - 5 SEC - 2 Big 12 - 1 FCS - 1 As a guy that was previously based on the west coast, I do wonder if Holmes was more comfortable with west coast prospects and has now shifted to a more balanced approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 On 1/18/2023 at 3:12 PM, Karnage84 said: What I want to happen vs what I think will happen are two different things. I'd like for us to keep Brown but I feel like he's a decent candidate to go out the door. Either: a) We cut Vaitai and re-sign Brown or b) We keep Vaitai and draft an OG knowing he's more likely a cap casualty next year (either way) and for insurance in event of injury this year. I am of the opinion we should just draft our starting RG. We can't pay everyone on the line market value, you have to some cheap talent somewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Friend Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, General Tso said: I am of the opinion we should just draft our starting RG. We can't pay everyone on the line market value, you have to some cheap talent somewhere. We are paying alot of money to our OL already and Jonah is due for a contract. Getting a rookie contract or two there would be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 4 hours ago, General Tso said: I am of the opinion we should just draft our starting RG. We can't pay everyone on the line market value, you have to some cheap talent somewhere. I have a feeling that Brown is going to find a starting gig, we keep Vaitai and then draft his eventual replacement. I'd like to cut Vaitai, sign Brown to a friendly deal and still add someone via the draft (maybe an OT that can kick inside). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC421/ Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Karnage84 said: I have a feeling that Brown is going to find a starting gig, we keep Vaitai and then draft his eventual replacement. I'd like to cut Vaitai, sign Brown to a friendly deal and still add someone via the draft (maybe an OT that can kick inside). Cutting V frees up almost 7 million id be more than disappointed if they kept him. Cutting V, Brockers and Okwara should free up about 24 million combined. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 15 hours ago, BigC421/ said: Cutting V frees up almost 7 million id be more than disappointed if they kept him. Cutting V, Brockers and Okwara should free up about 24 million combined. I don't think they are going to do anything with Okwara until after the draft. Players with good pass-rush skills have good value. I suspect that he will be traded after June 1st to a team that is short on pass-rushers. This will also give us the most net-cap space benefits. https://overthecap.com/player/romeo-okwara/5296 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Friend Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 NFL informed teams the 2023 salary cap will be $224.8M. This is more than many expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I am not in the head of the Lions management but at some point they have to banking some cap space to sign their "cornerstone" players to extensions without putting themselves in "cap hell" like the New Orleans Saints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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