Chocolateman78 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, 615finest said: We must have a GM already chosen.. I thought we would wait to hire a GM before reaching out to OCs GMs typically don’t have a say on coaching staffs. That’s a HC decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
615finest Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Hire EB and get Mecole Hardman in here to add some speed!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Doom52 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Not sure a guy like EB will work here...we all get pissed at the cute plays...I watch all the KC games(wife's team) and some of the stuff they pull in the red zone will set us all off!!! We are constantly yelling to just run it or to quit with all of the gimmicks. I love the idea of a more dynamic offense, just feel like if he calls it like he does in KC it won't work here. I do think Nagy would be a better fit though. Ready to look different!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanLegend Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 10 hours ago, Chocolateman78 said: GMs typically don’t have a say on coaching staffs. That’s a HC decision. Think the one "contradiction" with this would be a GM is generally going to have an idea of the type of team they want to build, and that of course needs to at least mostly line up with what his coaches want. If the interest in Bienemy/Nagy or the Reid coaching tree in general is because Vrabel wants to move to a more wide open/pass heavy offense and the GM say wanted to remain with the Shanahan line of thinking on offense(Multi TE, run heavy, play action, etc) you could get a clash there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hope- Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, TitanLegend said: Think the one "contradiction" with this would be a GM is generally going to have an idea of the type of team they want to build, and that of course needs to at least mostly line up with what his coaches want. If the interest in Bienemy/Nagy or the Reid coaching tree in general is because Vrabel wants to move to a more wide open/pass heavy offense and the GM say wanted to remain with the Shanahan line of thinking on offense(Multi TE, run heavy, play action, etc) you could get a clash there. yeah it’s pretty interesting. if we hire from the reid tree our WR room is gonna need a huge makeover. it needed one anyway but i’m talking stylistically- our focus on big/physical WRs who are plus blockers is very much at odds with the type of guys they run out there in KC. it’s such a curious fit in general- i really can’t imagine vrabel ever going pass-happy, so the power spread guys we’ve looked at in years past made total sense to me, but this is a different beast. it’s hard not to wonder if a shift like that wouldn’t be vrabel looking toward a post-henry future, but what does that mean for next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanLegend Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, -Hope- said: yeah it’s pretty interesting. if we hire from the reid tree our WR room is gonna need a huge makeover. it needed one anyway but i’m talking stylistically- our focus on big/physical WRs who are plus blockers is very much at odds with the type of guys they run out there in KC. it’s such a curious fit in general- i really can’t imagine vrabel ever going pass-happy, so the power spread guys we’ve looked at in years past made total sense to me, but this is a different beast. it’s hard not to wonder if a shift like that wouldn’t be vrabel looking toward a post-henry future, but what does that mean for next year? It almost has to be Vrabel looking at a post-Henry future, or even a "lesser-Henry" now. Henry clearly lost half a step or so this year. Hopefully he's still got a couple more good years in him but the writing is already on the wall that the end of his "carry the offense" days is closer than it is further away. And finding another Henry isn't easy. A guy who can produce at a high level but also do that while taking on 350-400 carries a year. Backs aren't generally built like that anymore. College has largely went away from that too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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titans0021 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I’m going to be a little frustrated if this all circles back to some position coach Vrabel worked with in Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSlim Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 30 minutes ago, titans0021 said: I’m going to be a little frustrated if this all circles back to some position coach Vrabel worked with in Houston. Fwiw, I don’t think it’s just Vrabel hiring his buddy this time, although I don’t think it hurts his chances. He seems to be thought of highly, especially if we want to stay in the McVay/Arthur Smith/LaFleur mold of offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hope- Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 lol, would be pretty funny to go from all that scheme change talk to just hiring a vrabel/arthur smith guy. it’s weird to me that the net is that wide it is kind of interesting though that we have heard no confirmation yet that tim kelly is even getting an interview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanRedd Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 hours ago, TitanSlim said: Fwiw, I don’t think it’s just Vrabel hiring his buddy this time, although I don’t think it hurts his chances. He seems to be thought of highly, especially if we want to stay in the McVay/Arthur Smith/LaFleur mold of offense. Okay he still has never called plays & had he joined either of those franchises he wouldn’t even call plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanLegend Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, TitanRedd said: Okay he still has never called plays & had he joined either of those franchises he wouldn’t even call plays Neither LaFleur or Art called plays before taking over here, so not something I think Vrabel is afraid of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanRedd Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, -Hope- said: lol, would be pretty funny to go from all that scheme change talk to just hiring a vrabel/arthur smith guy. it’s weird to me that the net is that wide it is kind of interesting though that we have heard no confirmation yet that tim kelly is even getting an interview He honestly doesn’t want to change schemes he just want an OC that can add a passing element to our base offense. This is what makes Shanahan offenses so deadly his offense is a combination of his fathers & Grudens passing attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanRedd Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, TitanLegend said: Neither LaFleur or Art called plays before taking over here, so not something I think Vrabel is afraid of. True but at this point he’s flirting with the hot seat he doesn’t have time for experiments he needs to hit it with his next OC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hope- Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, TitanRedd said: He honestly doesn’t want to change schemes he just want an OC that can add a passing element to our base offense. This is what makes Shanahan offenses so deadly his offense is a combination of his fathers & Grudens passing attack. sure, that’s what i’d expect. but matt nagy is not an outside zone, play-action, shanahan tree guy in the slightest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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