Madmike90 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 The more I look at this the more I just can't see past trading with the Colts at #4 as being the perfect trade partner... Scenario 1... 1.Colts take QB Bryce Young 2.Texans take QB CJ Stroud 3.Cardinals take DE Will Anderson 4. Bears take DT Jalen Carter This to me would be the perfect outcome but if the Cardinals take Carter then we take Anderson or move down. Scenario 2... 1.Colts take QB Bryce Young 2.Texans take DE Will Anderson 3.Cardinals take DT Jalen Carter 4. Bears now reset the QB market for teams like Raiders/Panthers/Titans/Jets meaning we are building a massive amount of draft capital with making two trades down. Scenario 3... 1.Colts take QB Bryce Young 2.Texans take DE Will Anderson 3.Cardinals Trade down for someone moving up for (Not sure why they wouldn't just move to #4 but even so) CJ Stroud 4. Bears take DT Jalen Carter Again Texas & Bears players could be swapped. If we trade down to #4 I see no way we lose out on either a top 2 defensive player at a primer position...a spot that allows us to trade down again and have a ton of capital to add plenty of talent all over the team in this draft or future draft picks that allow us to continue to reshape the roster longer term. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Madmike90 said: The more I look at this the more I just can't see past trading with the Colts at #4 as being the perfect trade partner... Scenario 1... 1.Colts take QB Bryce Young 2.Texans take QB CJ Stroud 3.Cardinals take DE Will Anderson 4. Bears take DT Jalen Carter This to me would be the perfect outcome but if the Cardinals take Carter then we take Anderson or move down. Scenario 2... 1.Colts take QB Bryce Young 2.Texans take DE Will Anderson 3.Cardinals take DT Jalen Carter 4. Bears now reset the QB market for teams like Raiders/Panthers/Titans/Jets meaning we are building a massive amount of draft capital with making two trades down. Scenario 3... 1.Colts take QB Bryce Young 2.Texans take DE Will Anderson 3.Cardinals Trade down for someone moving up for (Not sure why they wouldn't just move to #4 but even so) CJ Stroud 4. Bears take DT Jalen Carter Again Texas & Bears players could be swapped. If we trade down to #4 I see no way we lose out on either a top 2 defensive player at a primer position...a spot that allows us to trade down again and have a ton of capital to add plenty of talent all over the team in this draft or future draft picks that allow us to continue to reshape the roster longer term. Can't see Texans not drafting a QB. The new coach there is not going to roll with Davis Mills. He sucks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, topwop1 said: Can't see Texans not drafting a QB. The new coach there is not going to roll with Davis Mills. He sucks Me neither but just trying to cover all bases...I just think #4 makes too much sense right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowler1215 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Madmike90 said: The more I look at this the more I just can't see past trading with the Colts at #4 as being the perfect trade partner... Scenario 1... 1.Colts take QB Bryce Young 2.Texans take QB CJ Stroud 3.Cardinals take DE Will Anderson 4. Bears take DT Jalen Carter This to me would be the perfect outcome but if the Cardinals take Carter then we take Anderson or move down. Scenario 2... 1.Colts take QB Bryce Young 2.Texans take DE Will Anderson 3.Cardinals take DT Jalen Carter 4. Bears now reset the QB market for teams like Raiders/Panthers/Titans/Jets meaning we are building a massive amount of draft capital with making two trades down. Scenario 3... 1.Colts take QB Bryce Young 2.Texans take DE Will Anderson 3.Cardinals Trade down for someone moving up for (Not sure why they wouldn't just move to #4 but even so) CJ Stroud 4. Bears take DT Jalen Carter Again Texas & Bears players could be swapped. If we trade down to #4 I see no way we lose out on either a top 2 defensive player at a primer position...a spot that allows us to trade down again and have a ton of capital to add plenty of talent all over the team in this draft or future draft picks that allow us to continue to reshape the roster longer term. Just throwing this out there, Scenario 2: Houston gives us 12, 33 and one of their 1sts next year for 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagabears Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Anybody know this guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 51 minutes ago, malagabears said: Anybody know this guy? I once told you guys about a dude in a bears starter jacket walking up to me at the beach one time acting like a normal human before explaining that his son Jesus was coming back with all the animals. May have been this guy? Have to wait and see about the animals I guess but might be legit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagabears Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, RunningVaccs said: I once told you guys about a dude in a bears starter jacket walking up to me at the beach one time acting like a normal human before explaining that his son Jesus was coming back with all the animals. May have been this guy? Have to wait and see about the animals I guess but might be legit? Ha ha.. Guess we all get to have our Jesus moments. I found it funny he has a pinned tweet sparring with ESPN to give him credit over something he allegedly broke, hence the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 hours ago, malagabears said: Anybody know this guy? He's a fraud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbear72 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Allbright's response. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 If we trade down to 2 or 4 we should trade down again - if possible. Which it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 14 hours ago, Madmike90 said: Me neither but just trying to cover all bases...I just think #4 makes too much sense right now. Its for sure the Ideal spot right now. But its all going to come down to the two factors of A) What everyone (Houston, Indy, Atlanta, Carolina, Washington) are all willing to give up and B) how highly do we regard Carter/Anderson over the other Top 10 options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, malagabears said: Anybody know this guy? Its obviously BS. Regardless,I dont see them getting rid of their only weapon when adding a Rookie QB. But I will say, its not going to shock me if the Colts end up loving Levis, and by "the Colts" I mean Irsay. Hes going to be overly involved in this process, and he is for sure the type of guy who "likes his style" over the actual scouting department reports. Similar to Mitch and his Car Edited January 13, 2023 by StLunatic88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 8 hours ago, malagabears said: Anybody know this guy? He’s a hack. He has no sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 17 hours ago, Madmike90 said: The more I look at this the more I just can't see past trading with the Colts at #4 as being the perfect trade partner... Scenario 1... 1.Colts take QB Bryce Young 2.Texans take QB CJ Stroud 3.Cardinals take DE Will Anderson 4. Bears take DT Jalen Carter This to me would be the perfect outcome but if the Cardinals take Carter then we take Anderson or move down. Scenario 2... 1.Colts take QB Bryce Young 2.Texans take DE Will Anderson 3.Cardinals take DT Jalen Carter 4. Bears now reset the QB market for teams like Raiders/Panthers/Titans/Jets meaning we are building a massive amount of draft capital with making two trades down. Scenario 3... 1.Colts take QB Bryce Young 2.Texans take DE Will Anderson 3.Cardinals Trade down for someone moving up for (Not sure why they wouldn't just move to #4 but even so) CJ Stroud 4. Bears take DT Jalen Carter Again Texas & Bears players could be swapped. If we trade down to #4 I see no way we lose out on either a top 2 defensive player at a primer position...a spot that allows us to trade down again and have a ton of capital to add plenty of talent all over the team in this draft or future draft picks that allow us to continue to reshape the roster longer term. I honestly was thinking this last night as well, especially after listening to Nate Tice on Hoge and Jahns. 4 shoud still allow us to get Anderson/Carter. Basic trade - is this an overpay/underpay/fair trade? idk, but 1.1 for 1.4, 2.35 and 2024 1st Did a quick 5 round mock on PFN and tried to make picks realistic. focused on lines and help for JF1 1.1: Young 1.2: Stroud 1.3: Anderson 1.4: Carter, DT, Georgia - don't have to explain this one. blue chip stud 3T for flus 2.35: Darnell Wright, OT, Tennessee - not knowing what FA holds, we get a plug and play RT from day one 2.55: *TRADE* AZ sends WR Hopkins to CHI for 2.55 and a conditional 2024 5th round pick, based on individual/team incentives/success 3.64: Andre Carter, DE, Army - big DE with long arms and reach. 4.100: Ricky Stromberg, C, Arkansas - a C with G versatility. gives us some options along the line. again, depends on FA 4.131 (from Eagles): Luke Schoonmaker, TE, Michigan - does anyone even know who our backup TE is? Schoon should be a reliable #2 as i expect Kmet to get an extension 5.132: Roschon Johnson, RB, Texas - I watched a ton of Texas this year, and this dude can play. Bigger back with speed, overshadowed by Bijan. Monty replacement 5.156 (from Ravens): Jake Haener, QB, Fresno State - I know QB isn't a top need, but we need a young guy to groom and Haener has skill to develop. Only QBs we've drafted in the last 15 years are Fields, Fales, and Lefevour - we need to start taking a young guy every couple years and stop relying on journeyman backups TLDR; new starting RT, WR, 3T, possible starter DE, key backup C/G, TE, RB, QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 The Bears would be foolish to give up a 2 and a 5 for Hopkins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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