Forge Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Not going to lie...I have no idea what a hall of fame pace for running backs is moving forward 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, Forge said: Not going to lie...I have no idea what a hall of fame pace for running backs is moving forward is it less than the historic pace or stats of 11k + circa 100tds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie. Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) On 1/14/2023 at 4:23 AM, iknowcool said: He's a beast. But it sucks we (probably) won't get to see him carry a full load in his prime. That's not a bad thing. Keep this guy as fresh as long as possible. Edited January 15, 2023 by biggie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 1:40 PM, Malik said: I mean Jamaal Charles had 5 seasons over 5ypc and 1 with 6.4 and no one even remembers him. Not even Kansas City fans Because that’s not enough seasons. Charles was on pace, and then stopped abruptly. Sam with Chubb, he’s absolutely on a HoF pace, but if his career ended today he is absolutely 100% not a HoF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 The average length of career for a HOF running back is 10 years. Average yards is a just under 11k. 86 TD. So Chubb would need to play 5 years, gain 4600 yards rushing with 38 TDs to be an average HOF RB. So yes, he is on pace. As long as his health holds up for 3 and a half years he should be an average HOF RB statistically. Anything else is the cherry on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie. Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Forge said: Not going to lie...I have no idea what a hall of fame pace for running backs is moving forward Well, moving forward is kind of a requirement. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 No. Really good player, but has never really stuck out amongst his peers as THE guy, the face of the league at his position, or head and shoulders above the rest. Maybe that changes in the future, but based on his current pace, I wouldn't have him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Danger said: No. Really good player, but has never really stuck out amongst his peers as THE guy, the face of the league at his position, or head and shoulders above the rest. Maybe that changes in the future, but based on his current pace, I wouldn't have him in. So are you saying there is no guy? No RB in this era gets in? He averages fewer carries and more yards per game than Henry. He averages more ypc and yards after contact than anyone in this era. McCaffrey is ahead in total yards (about 1000 yards) and behind by 1600 yards in rushing with more seasons and more touches. So that one is close it just depends if you prefer receiving or rushing from a RB, if all things are equal they would be pretty close. Otherwise, I don't think any other RB is in the conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Thomas5737 said: So are you saying there is no guy? No RB in this era gets in? He averages fewer carries and more yards per game than Henry. He averages more ypc and yards after contact than anyone in this era. McCaffrey is ahead in total yards (about 1000 yards) and behind by 1600 yards in rushing with more seasons and more touches. So that one is close it just depends if you prefer receiving or rushing from a RB, if all things are equal they would be pretty close. Otherwise, I don't think any other RB is in the conversation. I like Chubbs stats I do and even can admit perhaps they're better than Henry's in multiple ways, I'd put Henry in before Chubb, and if you're giving me the choice of putting neither of them or both of them in, yes I'll go neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, Danger said: I like Chubbs stats I do and even can admit perhaps they're better than Henry's in multiple ways, I'd put Henry in before Chubb, and if you're giving me the choice of putting neither of them or both of them in, yes I'll go neither. Henry has the bulk, if that's what you're in to that is fine. Odds are they will even out once their careers are done and then it won't look as close. If you're cool with neither making it in then it will make the HOF more elite. I would just ask that you do it the same for all positions. If 1 RB makes in in per decade then 1 QB makes it in per decade and etc... If it isn't enough to be top 2 for a decade (projected) then you just don't get in. Sorry Drew Brees. Sorry Aaron Rodgers. Peyton and Brady get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Yeah, how could we possibly justify putting in Brees and Rodgers but not Nick Chubb? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Thomas5737 said: Henry has the bulk, if that's what you're in to that is fine. Odds are they will even out once their careers are done and then it won't look as close. If you're cool with neither making it in then it will make the HOF more elite. I would just ask that you do it the same for all positions. If 1 RB makes in in per decade then 1 QB makes it in per decade and etc... If it isn't enough to be top 2 for a decade (projected) then you just don't get in. Sorry Drew Brees. Sorry Aaron Rodgers. Peyton and Brady get it. That's just your opinion lol. You don't get to make the rules of who I think is and isn't worthy of the Hall of Fame. Particularly in an era where the RB is becoming less and less a focal point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Danger said: That's just your opinion lol. You don't get to make the rules of who I think is and isn't worthy of the Hall of Fame. Particularly in an era where the RB is becoming less and less a focal point. I'm not saying what your opinion should be, but you'd have a wacky HOF if you only elected certain positions. It's your HOF though so that's fine. I would have a different HOF and it would include players who were elite at their position for a significant time period. To each their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 1:05 PM, CP3MVP said: Yards per carry is at all time highs the last few years. It’s never been this easy to run the ball. Are we gonna knock current running backs like people attempt to do with current QBs or nah The loaded box percentage kinda nixes that, especially coupled with just how bad of QB play Cleveland has had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 4:06 PM, Malik said: Outside of Bettis and Martin, RBs don't usually get in because of cumulative stats. They have to be seen as THE best running back in football for at around 4 years to be considered. How much better is Nick Chubb than say Corey Dillion who has 0% chance of ever getting in the hall He's infinitely better than Corey Dillon ever was...Chubb's worst ever year is better than Dillon's best in terms of YPC alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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