battle2heaven Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 4 hours ago, SemperFeist said: The more I read about Leonhard from the college football crowd, the more I like him. I think he’d be 2nd on my list behind Sean Desai. We have the same list lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share Posted January 21, 2023 Rams defensive backs coach Jonathan Cooley is a coach that O’Connell had tried once to bring onto his staff, but was blocked by Sean McVay from doing so. On Wednesday, Cooley was released from his duties as defensive backs coach. Cooley could come to Minnesota in many capacities and defensive coordinator could be a worthy promotion for him. He also comes from the Vic Fangio tree and has some familiarity with O’Connell. https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/lists/minnesota-vikings-defensive-coordinator-ed-donatell-vic-fangio-sean-desai-mike-pettine-raheem-morris-jonathan-cooley/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR22MsxrFEgHfJxkRN-nVrwznbUtOO50FTX1drDjt2Y2mwaKpcGUQw9CYNo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share Posted January 21, 2023 Points allowed in 2021 under Mike Zimmer - 426 Points allowed in 2022 under Ed Donatell - 427 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplexing Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, vike daddy said: Points allowed in 2021 under Mike Zimmer - 426 Points allowed in 2022 under Ed Donatell - 427 So, Zimmer would be an improvement over Donatell if he were brought back... 😉 Actually, this is an 'apples to oranges' comparison of the impact of a HC vs DC on D points allowed. Further, some of those points were pick-six points on the Vikings QBs or recovery of fumble rumble TDs on the Vikings QBs, WRs, RBs. Of course, those stats MAY have been adjusted for defensive opponent scores. I'm not sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perrynoid Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, vike daddy said: Points allowed in 2021 under Mike Zimmer - 426 Points allowed in 2022 under Ed Donatell - 427 But how many snaps did Hunter play in 2021 versus 2022? Z. Smith? This seasons D should have been markedly better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, Purplexing said: So, Zimmer would be an improvement over Donatell if he were brought back... 😉 Actually, this is an 'apples to oranges' comparison of the impact of a HC vs DC on D points allowed. Further, some of those points were pick-six points on the Vikings QBs or recovery of fumble rumble TDs on the Vikings QBs, WRs, RBs. Of course, those stats MAY have been adjusted for defensive opponent scores. I'm not sure... Has a head coach ever returned to the team that fired them to be a coordinator? If Zimmer could focus on the defense and return to being the Bengals version of himself, I’d be happy with that and the scheme. Unfortunately, he’s probably past his usefulness as a nfl coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, vikingsrule said: Has a head coach ever returned to the team that fired them to be a coordinator? If Zimmer could focus on the defense and return to being the Bengals version of himself, I’d be happy with that and the scheme. Unfortunately, he’s probably past his usefulness as a nfl coach. Haha not a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 The way Zimmer was throwing people under the bus last season, the locker room wouldn’t want him back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Vince Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Would you guys trade us a 7th round pick for Joe Barry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, St Vince said: Would you guys trade us a 7th round pick for Joe Barry? We’ll send you a 2024 7th for Joe Barry, the 15th overall pick, and Kenny Clark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) I certainly have questions/reservations about Flores as a DC, but he’s definitely a high profile coach that everyone else seems to want. Edited January 21, 2023 by SemperFeist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywindO2 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Zero reservations here. Flores would be a hell of a hire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, skywindO2 said: Zero reservations here. Flores would be a hell of a hire. Really Flores should get a shot at being a HC again and I am sure he would take that over any DC job. Also if we got Desai, won't that be a demotion for him since he is the associate HC in Seattle? If Andre Patterson wanted to return as the DC I would take him in a second as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I am curious, was it Donatell's influence that lead the Vikings to not take Kyle Hamilton? Did he think he was too slow? Or was it a GM choice to save money and they thought Hamilton was damaged goods because he was hurt a bit in college? That was a massive mistake, the guy is a freak show rookie and can do so much, cover the slot, cover the TE, blitz, drop back deep, tackle in the open field etc. He was better than Lewis Cine in college and he is better than Cine as a pro, no way Cine would have been as productive or as impactful as a rookie like Hamilton was. In a way lucky for Hamilton he was not drafted here, he would have just been asked to sit back deep in coverage and would have never been put on attack. Maybe they thought Hamilton was slow and Cine was fast because he ran well at the combine, Hamilton sure does not look slow in these highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share Posted January 21, 2023 oh good gawd, this again.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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