naptownskinsfan Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, lavar703 said: I was totally on board with getting him out of here. I thought most of our offensive problems were on him. I was very wrong. He’s an incredible coach. He only called plays in his last year, which was our best year. In Gruden's first year, Jay called the plays and was heavily involved in the game planning. I thought it was worthless to have an OC that year given how he wanted to be involved with the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, turtle28 said: Losing McVay was inevitable. Anyone who acts like it wasn't is kidding themselves. No team would’ve fired their 50 year old coach coming off a 9-7 division winning season and a 8-7-1 season where we barely missed the playoffs to hire their 30 year old offensive coordinator. It just wasn't going to happen and we weren't going to be able to keep him either. There's also the fact that if we had Sean McVay as our HC, we still wouldn't have the Rams talent but I guess he could have hired Wade Phillips as def coord, still the talent on the Redskins roster is mediocre, so, the team is most likely going to be mediocre too. Perhaps if we had McVay as our HC now, he does enough to get another win or 2 in each season, but not to 11 or 12 wins. The Rams are extremely talented. That doesn’t change the fact that they toiled around until McVay got there. And yes, I’m sure there’s plenty of teams that would fire a Jay Gruden type coach to hire someone the franchise was deathly afraid of losing. The issue being, McVay was never going to take the job if they fired Jay to keep him and Cooley already spoke on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, lavar703 said: The Rams are extremely talented. That doesn’t change the fact that they toiled around until McVay got there. And yes, I’m sure there’s plenty of teams that would fire a Jay Gruden type coach to hire someone the franchise was deathly afraid of losing. The issue being, McVay was never going to take the job if they fired Jay to keep him and Cooley already spoke on this. And it also hasnt worked out for the teams that have done it- I'm looking at the Bucs and Dirk Koetter and the Giants and Ben McAdoo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Schefter is saying coaching contracts are hinting at a 2021 work stoppage- http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25749860/language-new-coaches-contracts-hints-possible-nfl-work-stoppage-2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, lavar703 said: The Rams are extremely talented. That doesn’t change the fact that they toiled around until McVay got there. And yes, I’m sure there’s plenty of teams that would fire a Jay Gruden type coach to hire someone the franchise was deathly afraid of losing. The issue being, McVay was never going to take the job if they fired Jay to keep him and Cooley already spoke on this. Give me another example of a time in the history of the NFL when a HC coming off two straight winning seasons was fired for any offensive or defensive coordinator... Let alone a 30-year-old offensive coordinator with no head coaching experience at any level. The answer is, you can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 24 minutes ago, naptownskinsfan said: Schefter is saying coaching contracts are hinting at a 2021 work stoppage- http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25749860/language-new-coaches-contracts-hints-possible-nfl-work-stoppage-2021 Probably have to be another lock out where the league won't allow the players to work, I doubt the players go on strike. They should, but many of them make so much money now that I doubt they go on strike. This isn't the 1980’s and before, where many players needed offseason jobs in order to pay their bills bc the league/owners didn't pay them enough to live on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, turtle28 said: Give me another example of a time in the history of the NFL when a HC coming off two straight winning seasons was fired for any offensive or defensive coordinator... Let alone a 30-year-old offensive coordinator with no head coaching experience at any level. The answer is, you can't. 9-7 and 8-7-1 are technically winning seasons but if that’s what you want to cling to, by all means. Marty Schottenheimer was 14-2 and got fired for Norv Turner. Are you done yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, lavar703 said: 9-7 and 8-7-1 are technically winning seasons but if that’s what you want to cling to, by all means. Marty Schottenheimer was 14-2 and got fired for Norv Turner. Are you done yet? For Spurrier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, turtle28 said: Probably have to be another lock out where the league won't allow the players to work, I doubt the players go on strike. They should, but many of them make so much money now that I doubt they go on strike. This isn't the 1980’s and before, where many players needed offseason jobs in order to pay their bills bc the league/owners didn't pay them enough to live on. Yes, but as the profits expand from numerous things such as the TV deal, the players are going to want their equal share of the pot, especially since they are the ones with all of the risk out here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, lavar703 said: 9-7 and 8-7-1 are technically winning seasons but if that’s what you want to cling to, by all means. Marty Schottenheimer was 14-2 and got fired for Norv Turner. Are you done yet? Umm yeah... So I didn't say that's what I wanted. My point was HCs who have two winning seasons in a row don't get fired for an offensive coordinator on that HC’s coaching staff, and for sure not a 30-year-old offensive coordinator with no HC experience. Nice try in trying to move the goal posts, I commend you for trying to not answer the question I posed to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, naptownskinsfan said: Yes, but as the profits expand from numerous things such as the TV deal, the players are going to want their equal share of the pot, especially since they are the ones with all of the risk out here. Nah, the players never get their equal share of the pie. They do all the work, put their bodies, long term health and lives on the line while front office people make billions off of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, turtle28 said: Umm yeah... So I didn't say that's what I wanted. My point was HCs who have two winning seasons in a row don't get fired for an offensive coordinator on that HC’s coaching staff, and for sure not a 30-year-old offensive coordinator with no HC experience. Nice try in trying to move the goal posts, I commend you for trying to not answer the question I posed to you. You asked for an example and I gave you one. How the hell is that moving the goal posts? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, lavar703 said: You asked for an example and I gave you one. How the hell is that moving the goal posts? Lol What example? I said name a winning HC who was fired after having two winning seasons for their offensive coordinator. Edited January 13, 2019 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 Romo said Derwin James reminds of Sean Taylor bc Sean could play FS, SS & LB. Romo said Sean could do everything you asked of him on the field and so can James. Yet, a certain poster in this forum told me that James shouldn't be drafted as a safety, he should be a corner and preferably a slot corner. Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 The chargers are giving this game away! Horrible muff by King there! Horrible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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