Pugger Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mr Bad Example said: I think you might not get the purpose of this thread I guess not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Where is this information coming from regarding the Raiders agreeing to compensation for Carr? I've not seen it reported anywhere. This would be huge news if true. The Raiders would be fully stocked to outbid any team for Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 28 minutes ago, Pugger said: I guess not... I started with Amari Rodgers. Then it went to Christian Watson. Then to Kenny Clark. Along the way there was a dig at Nixon. Wyatt ended up in there when the season was done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, vegas492 said: I started with Amari Rodgers. Then it went to Christian Watson. Then to Kenny Clark. Along the way there was a dig at Nixon. Wyatt ended up in there when the season was done. But we don't count Amari Rodgers. That was before your powers came to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 45 minutes ago, Sandy said: But we don't count Amari Rodgers. That was before your powers came to be. I'm not sure that he wasn't THE ONE who got it started! He had one good game as a Packer...and it was right after that thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Sandy said: 5 hours ago, Old Guy said: Where is this information coming from regarding the Raiders agreeing to compensation for Carr? I've not seen it reported anywhere. This would be huge news if true. The Raiders would be fully stocked to outbid any team for Rodgers. why would Carr agree to a trade to a team that is willing to pay him on his current contract AND have to give up assets when the alternative is Carr gets cut and can sign with that same team for the same contract value and the new team gets to keep the assets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, squire12 said: why would Carr agree to a trade to a team that is willing to pay him on his current contract AND have to give up assets when the alternative is Carr gets cut and can sign with that same team for the same contract value and the new team gets to keep the assets? That has been my point all along. I don't have an answer for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_gb Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Old Guy said: Where is this information coming from regarding the Raiders agreeing to compensation for Carr? I've not seen it reported anywhere. Quote Derek Carr has said he will not extend the Feb. 15 deadline for the $40.4 million injury guarantee clause in his contract. In other words, the Raiders have to trade Carr before Feb. 15. Carr has a no-trade clause, so in other other words, he will not be getting traded, instead forcing his release. “I don’t think that would be best for me,” Carr said matter-of-factly. He is correct. Carr has zero reason to play ball with the Raiders, and though the remaining money on his deal is lucrative, he will make even more as a free agent in this quarterback-starved league. The Raiders threw Carr under the bus on the way out the door. He is reclaiming some dignity now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, squire12 said: why would Carr agree to a trade to a team that is willing to pay him on his current contract AND have to give up assets when the alternative is Carr gets cut and can sign with that same team for the same contract value and the new team gets to keep the assets? I think the issue is the contract. Pat Kirwan went over it once. And that was debated on here (Cwood) as to whether or not Kirwan was correct. I think that Kirwan's point was that he isn't getting a deal as a free agent like he has now. Total comp. So it would be best for him to help facilitate a trade. And I think what works well for him via trade is that he gets that money, but Vegas has to eat the guaranteed dollars so the cap hit is less for the acquiring team? But that is pure speculation on my part. Now...I'm saying this, and I really don't understand his contract. Simply parroting what Pat Kirwan said once while I was listening to him on the radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, vegas492 said: I think the issue is the contract. Pat Kirwan went over it once. And that was debated on here (Cwood) as to whether or not Kirwan was correct. I think that Kirwan's point was that he isn't getting a deal as a free agent like he has now. Total comp. So it would be best for him to help facilitate a trade. And I think what works well for him via trade is that he gets that money, but Vegas has to eat the guaranteed dollars so the cap hit is less for the acquiring team? But that is pure speculation on my part. Now...I'm saying this, and I really don't understand his contract. Simply parroting what Pat Kirwan said once while I was listening to him on the radio. If a team is willing to trade for Carr, they are willing to pay him the current contract he has AND give up assets to acquire him. So why not have Carr get cut and sign Carr to a similar contract and save the assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, squire12 said: If a team is willing to trade for Carr, they are willing to pay him the current contract he has AND give up assets to acquire him. So why not have Carr get cut and sign Carr to a similar contract and save the assets. Because if you trade for Carr, he's yours. If Carr is cut, you have to recruit him and he can go wherever he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, Nick_gb said: I think the Packers will do similar if Aaron decides to play and informs the Packers that he wishes to be traded. I don't know what the Packers will do if he says he wants to stay in GB. They probably cave and bring him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Because if you trade for Carr, he's yours. If Carr is cut, you have to recruit him and he can go wherever he wants. and he will go where the money is highest. so why again would Carr agree to a trade and restrict his potential to hit FA and get a big contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_gb Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Because if you trade for Carr, he's yours. If Carr is cut, you have to recruit him and he can go wherever he wants. In theory yes, but unfortunately in this scenario Carr has a no trade clause. He holds all the cards, not the Raiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, {Family Ghost} said: I don't know what the Packers will do if he says he wants to stay in GB. They probably cave and bring him back. I think that's what's going to happen. I'd trade him, but I think they'll rework a deal to bring him back. There's nothing that would appeal to me playing in the AFC having to go through that gauntlet of QBs to win anything. Edited February 7, 2023 by NFLGURU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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