Utley Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, jyod21 said: I can respect that. I actually expected some more pedestrian numbers from him early this season, due in part to his motor. He's exceeded my expectations. I trust him more now than I did 2 weeks ago, even with Arizona struggling. Obviously have to see if he can stay locked in, and continue producing, but you can tell he's been working on his body, and he hasn't been overly reliant on his perimeter game, to the point that it's a fault. I think he's kept himself in that top tier. Yeah, he's been in that range for me for a while. He has the chance to move up. If he keeps playing hard even through Arizona's struggles, and can maintain his conditioning then I could see moving him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkeyDoke21 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 20 minutes ago, Tyronnosaurus said: As a Mavs fan should I want Donkic, Bagley, or Ayton more. Bagley, I would say. All could help, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Granted I haven't seen much of him but I really don't see superstar potential in Bagley. Seems more like borderline to perennial all star kind of guy. Not big on Ayton either. He just seems like a guy who is going to waste his immense gifts. Reminds me of watching a more skilled Andre Drummond in college. Andre has turned it around but that's pretty rare. Again, generalizing based on limited viewings of each. At least they are both producing really well so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: Granted I haven't seen much of him but I really don't see superstar potential in Bagley. Seems more like borderline to perennial all star kind of guy. Not big on Ayton either. He just seems like a guy who is going to waste his immense gifts. Reminds me of watching a more skilled Andre Drummond in college. Andre has turned it around but that's pretty rare. Again, generalizing based on limited viewings of each. At least they are both producing really well so far. it is about how much better they get. Anthony Davis averaged 14 and 10, KAT averaged 10 & 7, Embiid 11 & 8 their freshman years. Both Ayton and Bagley are both averaging over 20 & 11 right now. They are both way more skilled than I expected at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, 11sanchez11 said: it is about how much better they get. Anthony Davis averaged 14 and 10, KAT averaged 10 & 7, Embiid 11 & 8 their freshman years. Both Ayton and Bagley are both averaging over 20 & 11 right now. They are both way more skilled than I expected at this time. I totally agree but it's not like Bagley is some otherworldly athlete or elite shooter/playmaker for others. Those things tend to show early (shooting debatable). He also seems like a below the rim finisher. The numbers you posted are a little misleading too. Davis still won AP POY, Towns and Embiid played a lot less (Towns 19.5 and 12.7 per 40, Embiid 19.4 and 14 ) for a couple reasons and we still have the majority of the season, including conference play, to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAS22 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Bagley has it all. His athleticism shows in different ways, mostly as a quick twitch athlete (his second jump is absolutely outrageous). And best of all, he's extremely polished around the basket. Wish I could find more full game tape on Doncic but obviously what he's doing in Europe at his age is very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, CAS22 said: Wish I could find more full game tape on Doncic but obviously what he's doing in Europe at his age is very impressive. not sure if they keep it up but watchespn had the fiba games over the summer, probably 5-6 and obviously against some NBA players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkeyDoke21 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 4:29 PM, CAS22 said: Wish I could find more full game tape on Doncic but obviously what he's doing in Europe at his age is very impressive. That's why I'm not as high on Doncic as everybody else seems to be. I've only seen cut ups of him, highlights, maybe a 1/2 of a fiba game, and then only know what I read. I'm always behind on Euros. I've seen some pretty varying comparisons for him, too, mainly to other Euros, which always annoys me. DraftNet has his comparison to Gallo. He looks like more than that, especially with the ball in his hands. Is he a Gallinari level shooter, as a prospect? Does anybody who is a little more comfortable with Doncic have any playstyle comparisons, or ideas on what kind of player they seem him being, day 1 and down the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 ? FUTURE #3 OVERALL PICK DEANDRE AYTON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Ayton and McCoy are destroying each other. Pretty cool matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Ayton was absurd down the stretch. Why they're not force feeding him more is criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 8:21 AM, catcheryea said: ? FUTURE #3 OVERALL PICK DEANDRE AYTON is your sig in reference to you? if so i'm copping that idea of self promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 5 hours ago, jfinley88 said: is your sig in reference to you? if so i'm copping that idea of self promotion lmao no but you should run with that anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coors Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Lifelong Duke fan.. but my favorite guy right now is Sexton.. followed by Bagley. - Do you guys think Porter goes into the draft after this back surgery, and if so, where could he go? - As a Hawks fan, I really hope we get the #1 pick this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 hours ago, coors said: Lifelong Duke fan.. but my favorite guy right now is Sexton.. followed by Bagley. - Do you guys think Porter goes into the draft after this back surgery, and if so, where could he go? - As a Hawks fan, I really hope we get the #1 pick this season. I would be surprised he wouldn't. But he better be in good shape come workouts. The real question is will he still go top 3 or 4, or will some team get scared of a long term injury reoccurrence. Or will they take their chances believing he is the top prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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