kgarrett12486 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 On 9/13/2024 at 6:52 PM, CWood21 said: That wasn't meant to be an optimistic post. That was talking about how futile things were. Right, I undestand that. My point was anytime there is any potential semblence of hope, this organization clings to it as an excuse to turn a profit instead of embracing reality and trying to better themselves for future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted September 17 Author Share Posted September 17 We're really going to end up going .500 this year, aren't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 I've pretty much turned off all my caring for this team right now. I am stat watching Walker, though. He looks like he's starting to get back into the whole hitting thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, MOSteelers56 said: I've pretty much turned off all my caring for this team right now. I am stat watching Walker, though. He looks like he's starting to get back into the whole hitting thing. Apathy. It has set in for the fan base. Its the worst thing that can happen to a franchise. Now will that last into the start of next season? Not sure, but another underwhelming offseason and its just running it back with Mo and Oli, the fans are on the edge here. Its not 1992 where there is nothing else to keep peoples attention, eventually they will find something else to do with their limited disposable income. Now, I still believe if they were honest, and said we have to actually hit the reset button for the first timenearly 3 decades, were going to run all the kids out there who we have been high on for years, and were brining in a real fan favorite to manage who's shown success with limited resources in Skip Schumaker, that the fans would support it for a year. Especially if they give the context of "we have to slash payroll till the Bally's stuff is figured out, and then we will bring it back up". Maybe Im wrong, but I think the majority of fans would understand that, and support a young fun team, especially if they drop the dumb "Cardinal Way" crap, and let these guys have some fun. Worst thing that happens is they bottom out for a year or so, but that also comes with some major rewards in the draft and should help bouncing back quickly after that Edited September 19 by StLunatic88 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted September 19 Author Share Posted September 19 4 hours ago, MOSteelers56 said: I've pretty much turned off all my caring for this team right now. I am stat watching Walker, though. He looks like he's starting to get back into the whole hitting thing. Just now? I've been done since like mid May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 15 hours ago, CWood21 said: Just now? I've been done since like mid May. Oh no, I've been checked out at least since the mid summer. Just keep checking Walker's stats pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStark Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 20 hours ago, MOSteelers56 said: I've pretty much turned off all my caring for this team right now. I am stat watching Walker, though. He looks like he's starting to get back into the whole hitting thing. Yup, I'm literally only watching to see the young guys and and if my over 84.5 wins somehow cashes (fully aware there's not a chance we only lose one more game the rest of the way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Not sure if anyone saw Bob Nightengale's recent writings (I missed it, as it went udner the radar), but here it is: 'While John Mozeliak, president of baseball operations for the Cardinals, plans to step down after the 2025 season, special assistant Chaim Bloom is expected to have much greater authority next season, perhaps even become the top baseball decision maker.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 2 minutes ago, kgarrett12486 said: Not sure if anyone saw Bob Nightengale's recent writings (I missed it, as it went udner the radar), but here it is: 'While John Mozeliak, president of baseball operations for the Cardinals, plans to step down after the 2025 season, special assistant Chaim Bloom is expected to have much greater authority next season, perhaps even become the top baseball decision maker.' Its why they scooped him up, although Im not sure Mo thought it would be this quick when he did. If they let Mo or Grisch make any decision next year it would be a mistake, they have no more investment in the team beyond '25 (you could argue they are already checked out) but it will be interesting to see what options Bloom or whoever even has with their hands so tied with payroll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 49 minutes ago, StLunatic88 said: Its why they scooped him up, although Im not sure Mo thought it would be this quick when he did. If they let Mo or Grisch make any decision next year it would be a mistake, they have no more investment in the team beyond '25 (you could argue they are already checked out) but it will be interesting to see what options Bloom or whoever even has with their hands so tied with payroll The Steelers did this when our GM Kevin Colbert left. He stayed on one more year and it was a huge mistake. That's why we draft Kenny Pickett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 1 minute ago, MOSteelers56 said: The Steelers did this when our GM Kevin Colbert left. He stayed on one more year and it was a huge mistake. That's why we draft Kenny Pickett. Ooooff, yea we dont need that. You are paying these guys regardless, so maybe dont just send them on their way, but give them their offices on the other side of the building and only wheel them out when a statement needs to be made. Other than that, if you are seriously interested in Chaim (thats a larger discussion) just give him the reigns behind the scenes and let him use 2025 as his audition. So after that, wither he gets the full GM role, or you move on and start the hunt for an entire new Front Office 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Went to 7 innings of this, my final game of the season. Left in the 7th because I had to use the facilities, and I live like a 3 minute walk away, and we were horrible tonight. At least they didn't trot out Matt Carpenter while I was there. On 9/19/2024 at 2:58 PM, StLunatic88 said: Maybe Im wrong, but I think the majority of fans would understand that, and support a young fun team, especially if they drop the dumb "Cardinal Way" crap, and let these guys have some fun. Worst thing that happens is they bottom out for a year or so, but that also comes with some major rewards in the draft and should help bouncing back quickly after that I think this is key. We have maybe 4 players that are fun to watch (probably a stretch) that are younger than 30. Build that fun team and people will buy in. The current team is stagnant, and not fun to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Willson getting traded isn’t he? 😂 This man speaks his mind and I love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 I really hope they don't ship Willson out. We need guys like him. He's the only solid older vet we have. Also, the FO should be embarrassed about the quality of the product. I'm glad he said what he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 46 minutes ago, MOSteelers56 said: I really hope they don't ship Willson out. We need guys like him. He's the only solid older vet we have. Also, the FO should be embarrassed about the quality of the product. I'm glad he said what he said. There is 0% chance they move Contreras. He's by far our best hitter and has been one of the most productive hitters in all of baseball since the 2023 ASB when healthy. They would loose this fan base if they did that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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