2023 Packers Big Board #9

[Packerraymond]

#1 Will Anderson EDGE, Alabama

#2 Jalen Carter DL, Georgia

#3 Tyree Wilson EDGE, Texas Tech

#4 Paris Johnson OT, Ohio State

#5 Christian Gonzalez CB, Oregon

#6 Lukas Van Ness EDGE, Iowa

#7 Jaxon Smith-Njigba WR, Ohio State 

#8 Quentin Johnston WR, TCU

 

It was close enough between Murphy and Smith that I'll let them battle it out here.

[Sandy]

BroJo all the way.

Neither Murphy nor Smith really do it for me in terms of value at this point. 

Edited April 1, 2023 by Sandy

[beekay414]

I get JSN at 7. I do not get Johnston at 8 tho. Not over the EDGEs, tackles or even DBs (and Mayer/Bijan). JSN gets the nod because he's ready day one and provides a likely security blanket for 10. Johnston needs work with a full route tree and isn't really a blocker despite the size. I'd have him much lower on our board. I'd have Michael Mayer over him as well. Not only is he the most complete TE in the class, much like JSN, he's a day one security blanket.

Edited April 1, 2023 by beekay414

[MaximusGluteus]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if GB has Will McDonald ahead of Nolan Smith on their board.  Better frame, better length, better bend.  I think McDonald has the higher upside.

[Packerraymond]

13 minutes ago, beekay414 said:

I get JSN at 7. I do not get Johnston at 8 tho. Not over the EDGEs, tackles or even DBs (and Mayer/Bijan). JSN gets the nod because he's ready day one and provides a likely security blanket for 10. Johnston needs work with a full route tree and isn't really a blocker despite the size. I'd have him much lower on our board. I'd have Michael Mayer over him as well. Not only is he the most complete TE in the class, much like JSN, he's a day one security blanket.

QJ is no more raw than Watson and he just put up 850 yards last year if you account for a full 17 game season.

Route running has become really overrated with today's schemes. Watson is nothing special there, it's the scheme and his speed that open him up.

[beekay414]

1 minute ago, Packerraymond said:

QJ is no more raw than Watson and he just put up 850 yards last year if you account for a full 17 game season.

Route running has become really overrated with today's schemes. Watson is nothing special there, it's the scheme and his speed that open him up.

Remind me when we took Watson...

[packfanfb]

15 minutes ago, MaximusGluteus said:

I wouldn't be surprised at all if GB has Will McDonald ahead of Nolan Smith on their board.  Better frame, better length, better bend.  I think McDonald has the higher upside.

I was thinking we should probably add McDonald to the list above. He's in the conversation by this point.

[Packerraymond]

13 minutes ago, beekay414 said:

Remind me when we took Watson...

And we got production right away, so we shouldn't be scared to do it again.

[beekay414]

2 minutes ago, Packerraymond said:

And we got production right away, so we shouldn't be scared to do it again.

Sure...in the 2nd round. Taking raw wideouts with limited route trees in college has certainly worked well for teams that invested 1sts in them.

[HokieHigh]

1 minute ago, beekay414 said:

Sure...in the 2nd round. Taking raw wideouts with limited route trees in college has certainly worked well for teams that invested 1sts in them.

how many top 10 prospects in a draft class have been tight ends, and how many of those have been top TE's in the nfl? i'll take my chances with a wr 

[Sandy]

5 minutes ago, beekay414 said:

Sure...in the 2nd round. Taking raw wideouts with limited route trees in college has certainly worked well for teams that invested 1sts in them.

Correct, it has.

[HokieHigh]

24 minutes ago, HokieHigh said:

how many top 10 prospects in a draft class have been tight ends, and how many of those have been top TE's in the nfl? i'll take my chances with a wr 

pitts, hoeckenson, ebron, vernon davis, kellen winslow. zero 1000 yard seasons among them

[Packerraymond]

54 minutes ago, beekay414 said:

Sure...in the 2nd round. Taking raw wideouts with limited route trees in college has certainly worked well for teams that invested 1sts in them.

Treylon Burks and Brandon Aiyuk were the last two "specimens" I remember that worked a limited route tree. 

Not really sure either team has reasons to regret that. Athletes in space, that's football now, this isn't 2010 anymore where we iso our guys and may the best man win.

[beekay414]

4 minutes ago, Packerraymond said:

Treylon Burks and Brandon Aiyuk were the last two "specimens" I remember that worked a limited route tree. 

Not really sure either team has reasons to regret that. Athletes in space, that's football now, this isn't 2010 anymore where we iso our guys and may the best man win.

Corey Coleman? And we don't know whether Burks works or not. Too soon to say.

Just don't see QJ being high on our board at 15. We can find raw RAS specimens later in the draft. Either take the day 1 stud or take the more valuable position. I like Johnston but not for us.

[HokieHigh]

16 minutes ago, beekay414 said:

Corey Coleman? And we don't know whether Burks works or not. Too soon to say.

Just don't see QJ being high on our board at 15. We can find raw RAS specimens later in the draft. Either take the day 1 stud or take the more valuable position. I like Johnston but not for us.

5 foot 10 corey coleman has nothing on qj