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Why I believe Kirk Cousins will be a New York Jet

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51 minutes ago, rampantjet said:

People keep bringing up the point that we can front load Cousins contract as if that helps him or us all that much.  If it is guaranteed money he gets the same amount in the end anyway.  I guess he might prefer to have it like 2 years earlier so he can invest but all in all it isn't a huge deal.  For us however it makes almost no difference.  Since teams can roll over money into future years the difference is very minimal.  I was going to run the exact numbers but overthecap doesn't seem to be working right now.  I did it before though, it was only a few extra million in the last 4 years of a 5 year deal after giving him 60 mill in year 1.

If he averages $30M a year on a 5 year deal $150M with $60M in year 1 that is huge.

 

I'd sign up to fully guarantee this deal:

 

Year 1 - $60M

Year 2 - $35M (can't be less than half the first year)

Year 3 - $19M

Year 4 - $18M

Year 5 - $18M

 

Expected Cap:

2018 - Cap $180M~   

2019 - Cap $190M

2020 - Cap $200M (This is the year our first rookies come off their deals Leo/Jenkins)

2021 - Cap $210M

2022 - Cap $220M

 

Percentage of cap taken up:

2018 - 30%

2019 - 18.4%

2020 - 9.5%

2021 - 8.5%

2022 - 8.2%

 

Now to get to the point. Here is what that equates to if those percentages were related to the 2017 QBs and their cap percentages:

2018 - 1st highest paid QB

2019 - 1st highest paid QB

2020 - Same percentage as 18th highest paid QB in 2017

2021 - Same percentage as 21st highest paid QB in 2017

2022 - Same percentage as 21st highest paid QB in 2017

 

This is why front loading a Cousins deal is so huge. We'd still have plenty of cap to sign talent in 2018 and 2019 when his cap hits are astronomically high but those final years are so low that you can easily surround him with talent while also keeping all your draft picks. You may not think he is worth it to be the highest paid QB but I certainly think he is worth being paid as the 18th-21st highest paid QB and if signing him to a massive deal allows for that then I'd guarantee every penny of it.

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9 minutes ago, rdelaney89 said:

If he averages $30M a year on a 5 year deal $150M with $60M in year 1 that is huge.

 

I'd sign up to fully guarantee this deal:

 

Year 1 - $60M

Year 2 - $35M (can't be less than half the first year)

Year 3 - $19M

Year 4 - $18M

Year 5 - $18M

 

Expected Cap:

2018 - Cap $180M~   

2019 - Cap $190M

2020 - Cap $200M (This is the year our first rookies come off their deals Leo/Jenkins)

2021 - Cap $210M

2022 - Cap $220M

 

Percentage of cap taken up:

2018 - 30%

2019 - 18.4%

2020 - 9.5%

2021 - 8.5%

2022 - 8.2%

 

Now to get to the point. Here is what that equates to if those percentages were related to the 2017 QBs and their cap percentages:

2018 - 1st highest paid QB

2019 - 1st highest paid QB

2020 - Same percentage as 18th highest paid QB in 2017

2021 - Same percentage as 21st highest paid QB in 2017

2022 - Same percentage as 21st highest paid QB in 2017

 

This is why front loading a Cousins deal is so huge. We'd still have plenty of cap to sign talent in 2018 and 2019 when his cap hits are astronomically high but those final years are so low that you can easily surround him with talent while also keeping all your draft picks. You may not think he is worth it to be the highest paid QB but I certainly think he is worth being paid as the 18th-21st highest paid QB and if signing him to a massive deal allows for that then I'd guarantee every penny of it.

Ya i think you are missing the my main point though.  Which is that money rolls over now.  So if we pay him 60 mill instead of 30 mill in year 1, that is 30 mill less to carry over.  If you do the cap math out fully there is a very small difference in final cap space available.  Yes his actual cap hit will be less in those years, but that is more of a moral victory as we have less to carry over.

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That is exactly why Cousins opts for short contract. He can have more than those final years with next contract.  If he accepts front loading contract of 5 years from Jets then it is good for Jets.

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