big_palooka Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chali21 said: Stroud had flaws too. My questions with some of these guys in that second level are: Is JJ Mac Jones? Can Daniels hold up in the NFL? What would draw that comparison? Edited December 13, 2023 by big_palooka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, big_palooka said: What would draw that comparison? Both game managers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, NYRaider said: Both game managers Then compare him to Dak who is game manager as well. The skill set is more comparable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NYRaider Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, big_palooka said: Then compare him to Dak who is game manager as well. The skill set is more comparable. Dak as a game manager has had elite seasons though, JJ has yet to prove he can pass at a prolific level. He only has 20+ completions in 7/38 career games at Michigan. Edited December 13, 2023 by NYRaider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 3 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: And that's something us fans have to realize is the case with 99.99% of QBs coming out. We all want to wait for a blue chipper in Manning/Luck, but hell we have to be aggressive at some point and start taking chances on these guys. Yeah i think there's something to be said for assuming risk vs not trying at all. I definitely would take a shot on those 4 guys at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 4 hours ago, NYRaider said: I saw a Bears reporter propose Crosby, our first and second this year, and a third next year for #1, hell nah. I would give up #4, #36, and our 1/3 next year to go get Caleb though. No way I’d trade Crosby. Your proposal below though, definitely would pull the trigger on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nightmare said: No way I’d trade Crosby. Your proposal below though, definitely would pull the trigger on that. I'd make that trade in a heart beat and then be aggressive in free agency. Some potential players that I'd target: Offense: Jacoby Brissett | QB | Commanders Gardner Minshew | QB | Colts Antonio Gibson | RB | Commanders Hollywood Brown | WR | Cardinals Mehki Becton | OT | Jets Tyron Smith | OT | Cowboys Connor Williams | C | Dolphins Ezra Cleveland | OG | Vikings Robert Hunt | OG | Dolphins Defense: Leonard Williams | DL | Seahawks DJ Reader | NT | Bengals Christian Wilkins | DL | Dolphins Jaylon Johnson | CB | Bears Kenny Moore | CB | Colts Antoine Winfield Jr | S | Buccaneers Edited December 14, 2023 by NYRaider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 5 hours ago, NYRaider said: That's a guy who goes for the jugular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 8 hours ago, NYRaider said: Dak as a game manager has had elite seasons though, JJ has yet to prove he can pass at a prolific level. He only has 20+ completions in 7/38 career games at Michigan. Hear me out... Maybe Jim Harbaugh has so much faith in McCarthy to do what needs to be done if it needs to be done that purposefully leans into the run game to keep defenses from catching a break and the tines McCarthy would need to do what needs to be done are just that few and far between? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, NYRaider said: Dak as a game manager has had elite seasons though, JJ has yet to prove he can pass at a prolific level. He only has 20+ completions in 7/38 career games at Michigan. Not really the point, but sure. I'm saying Mac Jones a statue with a basic NFL arm. McCarthy is a dual threat with a big arm. Edited December 14, 2023 by big_palooka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, raidr4life said: That's a guy who goes for the jugular Helps when you have 2 WRs that are wide open constantly. Nearly every play, Daniels stares down his first read to either of these guys and throws when they come wide open. Have you ever seen a QB have that many high percentage deep throws? He's playing pitch and catch with two top 10-15 WRs. Edited December 14, 2023 by big_palooka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 2 hours ago, big_palooka said: Helps when you have 2 WRs that are wide open constantly. Nearly every play, Daniels stares down his first read to either of these guys and throws when they come wide open. Have you ever seen a QB have that many high percentage deep throws? He's playing pitch and catch with two top 10-15 WRs. Gotta watch the games not highlights Imo highlights only tell you half the story. I’ve seen games where daniels makes multiple reads come on lol. I’ve seen games where jj makes no reads and just hands the ball off or plenty quick 1 read stuff but you’ll never mention that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 2 hours ago, big_palooka said: Not really the point, but sure. I'm saying Mac Jones a statue with a basic NFL arm. McCarthy is a dual threat with a big arm. What would you say is jj signature 2023 game showing off his passing skills? since you watch so many games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 If the Raiders are picking 5th or later, I suspect last year's Panthers/Bears trade will be the starting price. I am thinking something like: 2024 1st and 2nd; 2025 1st and 2nd; one of Jacobs/Crosby/Adams. If Williams is the target, I would probably want to trade Jacobs over Adams. Crosby is a non-starter. I wrote before that pairing Adams with a rookie would be perilous, but I think he would fit well with Williams and Adams would be happy with the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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