raidr4life Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: FWIW fields with Davante and our offense, a first round defender, 2nd rounder on one of the regarded OL, and a new OC would cook. Watching him the last 3 weeks, I’m convinced that Chicago is just a bad fit for him. He’d look way better in a functional system and he’s only 25 next year. Just food for thought. I’d do it for a 3rd. Not more than that. And actually he is improving as a passer over the last 3 years. Josh Allen got better as a passer over time. I'm warming up to the idea. Saves a lot of draft Capitol and Cap. Edited December 19, 2023 by raidr4life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 9 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: If the price to move up for a QB is incredibly steep and Champ Kelly really sees a future top guy in fields, I'm fine with a trade for him. I have seen a lot of growth from him in an awful dysfunctional luke getsy system. Also you could keep Jimmy as a back up with fields so cheap for 1 year, then be out of Jimmy's contract without cap penalties when it's time to pay Fields. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Also you could keep Jimmy as a back up with fields so cheap for 1 year, then be out of Jimmy's contract without cap penalties when it's time to pay Fields. I'll still cut him. I'm not paying a 3rd string that salary. AOC is better than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, jpaulthe1st said: This is not an accurate assessment of his skill set but then again I don’t expect much from you outside of collecting stats from X to support your narrative of the day. Fields is 8-27 as a starter 164.5 passing yards per game 60% completion 6.9 YPA 81.7 Rating Are you saying he's good at throwing football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 41 minutes ago, raidr4life said: And actually he is improving as a passer over the last 3 years. Josh Allen got better as a passer over time. I'm warming up to the idea. Saves a lot of draft Capitol and Cap. Josh Allen year 3: 4,500 yards / 37 TD / 10 INT/ 69% comp Fields year 3: 1,976 yards / 14 TD / 8 INT / 61% comp Allen threw for as many TD in his third season as Fields has thrown for in his first 3 seasons combined, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 11 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: FWIW fields with Davante and our offense, a first round defender, 2nd rounder on one of the regarded OL, and a new OC would cook. Watching him the last 3 weeks, I’m convinced that Chicago is just a bad fit for him. He’d look way better in a functional system and he’s only 25 next year. Just food for thought. I’d do it for a 3rd. Not more than that. The Bears got him a bonafide #1 WR in DJ Moore and he didn't improve at all. Great runner, dynamic athlete, not an accurate passer, and doesn't process information fast enough to be a good NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 39 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Josh Allen year 3: 4,500 yards / 37 TD / 10 INT/ 69% comp Fields year 3: 1,976 yards / 14 TD / 8 INT / 61% comp Allen threw for as many TD in his third season as Fields has thrown for in his first 3 seasons combined, lol. I didn't say they improved at the same rate but he’s improving and the Bears are much more dysfunctional. Year 4 on another team could be his light bulb moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, raidr4life said: I didn't say they improved at the same rate but he’s improving and the Bears are much more dysfunctional. Year 4 on another team could be his light bulb moment. His light bulb moment was supposed to be when they acquired a legitimate #1 WR and he got worse because he is inaccurate and holds the ball too long because he can't read defenses. Y'all love to see mid for years and hope for more the next year just like Carr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I think the Bears will keep Eberflus and Fields unless they completely crap the bed in the last 3 weeks of the season. They’ve been better recently and finishing a season by “showing progress” to an ownership who are generally known for being reluctant to staff turnover already suggests the current setup might be given another year. If they do so, it means they can trade that #1 for a haul as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Humble_Beast said: I'll still cut him. I'm not paying a 3rd string that salary. AOC is better than him. You don't really save anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Fields stats suck, but when I watch him I see this: FWIW AOC's stats suck too. Fields has a bigger arm, is way more mobile as a rushing threat, and can escape pressure very well. I'm not saying he's a savior, but I'd happily trade for him for a 3rd round pick. A frank smith/ben johnson coached team with our pass blocking (way way way better than the bears) and he'd look very good IMHO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: The Bears got him a bonafide #1 WR in DJ Moore and he didn't improve at all. Great runner, dynamic athlete, not an accurate passer, and doesn't process information fast enough to be a good NFL QB. He's progressed a lot. And I've been watching the bears, he definitely has improved a lot as a passer from his rough start to the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpaulthe1st Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: He's progressed a lot. And I've been watching the bears, he definitely has improved a lot as a passer from his rough start to the year. That requires the ability to understand context and an understanding of what you are watching. Neither of which NYRaider is able to do. The playbook for @NYRaider is far more simple. Option 1 - Look up stats on X that somebody else used to support a preconceived narrative (context be damned) Option 2 - Troll an unsuspecting user because you are bored Edited December 19, 2023 by jpaulthe1st 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpaulthe1st Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Fields stats suck, but when I watch him I see this: FWIW AOC's stats suck too. Fields has a bigger arm, is way more mobile as a rushing threat, and can escape pressure very well. I'm not saying he's a savior, but I'd happily trade for him for a 3rd round pick. A frank smith/ben johnson coached team with our pass blocking (way way way better than the bears) and he'd look very good IMHO. Those 3 drops equated to ~100 yards and at least 1 but possibly 2 TD’s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 48 minutes ago, jpaulthe1st said: That requires the ability to understand context and an understanding of what you are watching. Neither of which NYRaider is able to do. The playbook for @NYRaider is far more simple. Option 1 - Look up stats on X that somebody else used to support a preconceived narrative (context be damned) Option 2 - Troll an unsuspecting user because you are bored 1 hour ago, MrOaktown_56 said: He's progressed a lot. And I've been watching the bears, he definitely has improved a lot as a passer from his rough start to the year. Show me metrics that prove he has improved then @jpaulthe1st Cause they're still not winning games and his numbers are god awful despite adding DJ Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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