PhillyRaider Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, NYRaider said: We know what we've got with AOC and that's the 32nd best starter in the NFL, 30th if you want to be generous and/or a team has to start their third string guy. You're awfully quick to judge a dude 8 games into his career with what you just told.everyone was a QB killer for an OC. Fact is, we really don't know what we've got in O'Connell and we've got a lot of other holes to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 minute ago, PhillyRaider said: You're awfully quick to judge a dude 8 games into his career with what you just told.everyone was a QB killer for an OC. Fact is, we really don't know what we've got in O'Connell and we've got a lot of other holes to fill. 0 completed passes over three quarters. O’Connell is a backup at best in this league and if we go into next season with him as the starter it is a massive failure by the front office. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Just now, PhillyRaider said: You're awfully quick to judge a dude 8 games into his career with what you just told.everyone was a QB killer for an OC. Fact is, we really don't know what we've got in O'Connell and we've got a lot of other holes to fill. We do know what we have in AOC, he's a 25 year old mid-round rookie with zero mobility, average arm talent, and spotty accuracy. There's nothing about his game that says long-term starter, we've been winning in spite of AOC, not because of him. If he was even league average we would've beat the Dolphins/Vikings and had a chance to win the division this year but his inability to put points on the board despite great talent around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, FloydFan said: 0 completed passes over three quarters. O’Connell is a backup at best in this league and if we go into next season with him as the starter it is a massive failure by the front office. @PhillyRaider has also repeatedly argued that AOC is better than Jalen Hurts and that he'd prefer him to Hurts as his starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: @PhillyRaider has also repeatedly argued that AOC is better than Jalen Hurts and that he'd prefer him to Hurts as his starting QB. I’m not even a huge Hurts fan but AOC has to actually do some balling before you can even breach that conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyRaider Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: @PhillyRaider has also repeatedly argued that AOC is better than Jalen Hurts and that he'd prefer him to Hurts as his starting QB. Either I'm not spelling right or you're incorrectly reading my posts. I said I'd take O'Connell over Hurts IN THE LONG RUN based on what I've seen of both so far. How many times do I have to say that I've seen every game Jalen Hurts ever played in the NFL? A hundred? So that opinion isn't based on air it's based in what I've seen and as far as Hurts goes, it's fair to say I've seen more of him than any poster in this forum by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, PhillyRaider said: Either I'm not spelling right or you're incorrectly reading my posts. I said I'd take O'Connell over Hurts IN THE LONG RUN based on what I've seen of both so far. How many times do I have to say that I've seen every game Jalen Hurts ever played in the NFL? A hundred? So that opinion isn't based on air it's based in what I've seen and as far as Hurts goes, it's fair to say I've seen more of him than any poster in this forum by far. The fact that you're even comparing them is insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Oh I agree 100% my bad thought you were taking a liking to the new usc qb from that bowl game Naw, system QB all the way. Riley is the new Tedford in that regard lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said: Naw, system QB all the way. Riley is the new Tedford in that regard lol That system has produced more NFL QB's than any other system in college football. Hurts got paid, Kyler got paid, and Baker is going to get paid soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said: Naw, system QB all the way. Riley is the new Tedford in that regard lol Yea, because all his QBs flop lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, PhillyRaider said: Either I'm not spelling right or you're incorrectly reading my posts. I said I'd take O'Connell over Hurts IN THE LONG RUN based on what I've seen of both so far. How many times do I have to say that I've seen every game Jalen Hurts ever played in the NFL? A hundred? So that opinion isn't based on air it's based in what I've seen and as far as Hurts goes, it's fair to say I've seen more of him than any poster in this forum by far. This is always the correct answer with him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Just now, Geezy said: Yea, because all his QBs flop lol Not all of Tedfords QBs flopped, they largely just underwhelmed. There's value in putting backup QBs into the league. Riley puts QBs in the league, on the aggregate they're better than Tedford's. But they also have mostly come in way hyped up and came nowhere close to justifying that hype or draft slot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 2 hours ago, PhillyRaider said: I don't like ANY of the QB's this draft. I am expecting exactly ZERO of this class to become a franchise QB. I'd much rather draft other positions of need and stick with O'Connell to see what we've got with him. I was on the fence about whether you were for real or if this was all just a clever troll job. This post has confirmed my suspicions of the latter. Thanks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 34 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: This is always the correct answer with him The dude who thinks Bo is the next McVay agreeing with the dude who said he'd take AOC over Hurts. Love to see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 31 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Not all of Tedfords QBs flopped, they largely just underwhelmed. There's value in putting backup QBs into the league. Riley puts QBs in the league, on the aggregate they're better than Tedford's. But they also have mostly come in way hyped up and came nowhere close to justifying that hype or draft slot. After Caleb gets his extension in a few years, Lincoln will have gotten dudes paid like 1B in the league between Mayfield (getting paid), Kyler (250M), Hurts (250M), and Caleb who gets 300M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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