Jeremy408 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 7 minutes ago, NYRaider said: The only issue right now is if you really want one of the top QB's you kind of need to hope that the Bears decide to keep Fields and shop the #1 pick. Because if they're going Williams then I think it's safe to assume the Commanders and Patriots take Maye/Daniels with the next two picks. Do you really want to trade up into the top 5 to take Penix or McCarthy? Yep and then there's the possibility that O'Connell beats them out which would piss me off(can you trade up for one of these guys and then you realize that the guy you had is better than them which isn't a good thing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Almost every Bears fan I've interacted with seems to want Fields back, lol Yeah but they don't make the decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Just now, NYRaider said: I agree but if you're giving up multiple firsts it has to be for someone that projects as a franchise QB. All 5 have Franchise QB potential. Two will likely be superstars, one will likely be good not great, one will likely underperform and be 16-22 range, and one will bust completely. Which of the 5 names fall in what categories, we don’t know. You take a gamble, take a risk. I’m open to risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Jeremy408 said: Yep and then there's the possibility that O'Connell beats them out which would piss me off(can you trade up for one of these guys and then you realize that the guy you had is better than them which isn't a good thing). Do you not understand project QBs? Of course AOC would beat out McCarthy. McCarthy could still be a Top 5 QB superstar in year three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 JJ is Derek Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tank4Drake said: Do you not understand project QBs? Of course AOC would beat out McCarthy. McCarthy could still be a Top 5 QB superstar in year three. he has completed eight of 17 passes for 87 yards. Not hating it's just the reality is this guy is not throwing the ball. Edited January 9 by Jeremy408 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Just now, agarcia34 said: JJ is Derek Carr. That’s Bo Nix to a tee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 McCarthy and Carr are not even close to similar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Jeremy408 said: he has completed eight of 17 passes for 87 yards. Not hating it's just a reality is this guy is not throwing the ball Once again, project QB. It. Does. Not. Matter. What. He. Looks. Like. Why is this not processing? You’re drafting traits. You’re drafting flashes. You’re drafting tools. Did you hate Allen and Love too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Just now, Tank4Drake said: Once again, project QB. It. Does. Not. Matter. What. He. Looks. Like. Why is this not processing? You’re drafting traits. You’re drafting flashes. You’re drafting tools. Did you hate Allen and Love too? You need elite tools if you're going to project though, McCarthy has good but not great tools. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: You need elite tools if you're going to project though, McCarthy has good but not great tools. Love’s tools weren’t elite. They were very very good tools though. McCarthy has good tools, and has flashes of throwing some of the most beautiful balls you’ll see in the sport. Edited January 9 by Tank4Drake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 minutes ago, Tank4Drake said: Once again, project QB. It. Does. Not. Matter. What. He. Looks. Like. Why is this not processing? You’re drafting traits. You’re drafting flashes. You’re drafting tools. Did you hate Allen and Love too? Oh in that case just draft Bo Nix he has traits too. If It doesn't matter what they do on the field. We may be able to draft someone in the third or fourth round that has arm talent and his mobile. Believe it or not, not all of those guys go in the first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said: Oh in that case just draft Bo Nix he has traits too. If It doesn't matter what they do on the field. We may be able to draft someone in the third or fourth round that has arm talent and his mobile. Believe it or not, not all of those guys go in the first round Hell no. Bo Nix is a complete Derek Carr clone. They are the same QB. Nix will show flashes of a nice arm with a pretty throw, but is mentally limited, will have games where he scores 10 points or less stumped by the defense, affected by pressure, poor with processing speed, can’t throw with anticipation and the guy must be open, etc. McCarthy’s football IQ is literally top notch. Carr and Nix football IQ is meh. People on this sub thought Carr was way smarter than he actually is for years. Edited January 9 by Tank4Drake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Just now, Tank4Drake said: Hell no. Bo Nix is a complete Derek Carr clone. They are the same QB. Nix will show flashes of a nice arm with a pretty throw, but is mentally limited, will have games where he scores 10 points or less stumped by the defense, affected by pressure, can’t throw with anticipation and the guy must be open, etc. big arm and his mobile. project with traits. Mental isnt a part of the equation if youre going that route. Think about this anything you say about Bo Nix you could say about JJ McCarthy based on the criteria you gave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Just now, Jeremy408 said: big arm and his mobile. project with traits. Mental isnt a part of the equation if youre going that route. Think about this anything you say about Bo Nix you could say about JJ McCarthy based on the criteria you gave. Yes, mental is PART of the equation. Traits with intelligence. And someone who can throw with anticipation. Bo Nix cannot do that. That is NOT something you develop. Throwing with anticipation is like speed or arm power, you either have it or you don’t. Bo Nix doesn’t have it. Carr doesn’t have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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