Old Guy Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 57 minutes ago, vegas492 said: Do you think that has anything to do with where the draft is this year? (I do not know, and feel like it doesn't matter) Because...if guys don't want to go to (looks it up), Detroit, who is to say they will want to come to Green Bay for the draft next year? Location was my initial reaction, but who knows. Agree with @HighCalebR who wants to go and be embarrassed as you begin to drop down draft boards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, ThatJerkDave said: I said the same thing in Spilltray's mock draft. I really think Cooper is going to go in the 20s or 30s, rather than mid to late second round. He has elite speed, and above average explosion testing per RAS. He is a little light, but I think that will be fine as long as he doesn't constantly get entangled with OL. In the tests that both of them ran, Cooper is pretty similar to Patrick Queen, who was drafted 28th overall. He's the clear top linebacker and some teams draft for need in the first. I agree that someone will fall in love and jump on him early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kampfgeist Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 There's an article on profootballtalk. Says NFL only invited 15 to the Draft and Alt/Bowers declined. Also said they are putting fewer cameras in prospect's homes to film reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, Old Guy said: Location was my initial reaction, but who knows. Agree with @HighCalebR who wants to go and be embarrassed as you begin to drop down draft boards. It could go either way. It's also a pretty poor LB class and he's just best of the lot at a low value position. I could make the case that in a decent LB class 41 might even be a bit high for him he's a nice prospect but not a special one in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 According to this article, the NFL kept the invites down to alleviate a guy having to wait too long. The pass rusher from Missouri seems like an odd invite to me if that was the NFL's thinking. Two Notable Quarterbacks Weren't Invited To NFL Draft (msn.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 21 minutes ago, spilltray said: It could go either way. It's also a pretty poor LB class and he's just best of the lot at a low value position. I could make the case that in a decent LB class 41 might even be a bit high for him he's a nice prospect but not a special one in any way. Can you clarify what you are talking about? This conversation was about how few players were actually going to the draft this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Can you clarify what you are talking about? This conversation was about how few players were actually going to the draft this year. I meant to quote dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 How well does Cooper score for personality, brains, coachability, decision-making, motor, all of that non-combine non-RAS stuff? Seems like anticipation and quick decision-making is essential for star linebackers. If the Packers love him on all of that, I'll love it if we end up drafting him. But a part of me says that if "He's the clear top linebacker and someone will fall in love and jump on him early...", I'd hope it wouldn't be us. If somebody else picks Cooper over some other good prospect, that's one extra good prospect still available for us at 41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 20 minutes ago, craig said: How well does Cooper score for personality, brains, coachability, decision-making, motor, all of that non-combine non-RAS stuff? Seems like anticipation and quick decision-making is essential for star linebackers. If the Packers love him on all of that, I'll love it if we end up drafting him. But a part of me says that if "He's the clear top linebacker and someone will fall in love and jump on him early...", I'd hope it wouldn't be us. If somebody else picks Cooper over some other good prospect, that's one extra good prospect still available for us at 41. Which Cooper? DeJean or Edgerrin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodestar Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 26 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Which Cooper? DeJean or Edgerrin? He says linebacker multiple times in his post lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatZepp Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 4 hours ago, HighCalebR said: I just feel like if you're not a guaranteed top 15 pick what's the risk/reward for you? Are they compensated for their troubles? Best case scenario you shake commishs hand. Worst case you get a camera in your face as you slide down the board. I would rather have a private gathering with friends and family so they could show us sitting around playing Euchre and making spawn sacks for fishing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 36 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Which Cooper? DeJean or Edgerrin? Cecil Cooper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 3 hours ago, ThatJerkDave said: I said the same thing in Spilltray's mock draft. I really think Cooper is going to go in the 20s or 30s, rather than mid to late second round. He has elite speed, and above average explosion testing per RAS. He is a little light, but I think that will be fine as long as he doesn't constantly get entangled with OL. In the tests that both of them ran, Cooper is pretty similar to Patrick Queen, who was drafted 28th overall. Agreed 100%. If we want him, we’re prolly going to have to take him at 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kampfgeist Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, spilltray said: It could go either way. It's also a pretty poor LB class and he's just best of the lot at a low value position. I could make the case that in a decent LB class 41 might even be a bit high for him he's a nice prospect but not a special one in any way. The linebacker class collectively may be poor but that shouldn't reflect on the individual. I'd make the case that Cooper is a better linebacker prospect than Quay was. Could also be possible he **** the bed in his Top 30 visit and/or may not be a personality fit. On field talent though, he's end 1, top 2 talent imo. I really like the idea of adding to the OL or a top DB talent, but if Cooper is the choice, I'll be really happy too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lodestar said: He says linebacker multiple times in his post lol OK, then it was Cooper Beebe, thanks for the clarification. 😁 Edited April 12 by Old Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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