2024 NFL Draft Discussion

[Mazrimiv]

3 minutes ago, Packerraymond said:

Another prediction I have after getting through this class and peeking at next year, Gute won't take a RB earlier than 5/6/7 this year. We saw it last year with Gute passing on taking an OL after three straight years of 3x OL picks (and most likely again this year), last year was a weak OL class, this year is great. He waited to pick from a position of strength.

We may be looking at an abnormally strong RB class in 2025, Ollie Gordon OK State, Omarion Hampton UNC, Quinshon Judkins OSU, Treyveon Henderson OSU, Jaydn Ott Cal, Donovan Edwards Michigan, Tahj Brooks Texas Tech, Devin Neal Kansas, Damien Martinez (transfer portal), Ashton Jeanty Boise State all are established runners still in college, I'd put Gordon, Hampton, Judkins, Henderson as RB1 this year. Maybe Donovan Edwards too, it'd be close. Etienne could blow up at Georgia, CJ Baxter is the lone guy at Texas now, Tawee Walker will get lots of run for the Badgers, and there's always 2-3 that come out of nowhere.

Don't chase a poor class Gute, just let Jacobs and Dillon handle it, pick from a spot of value next year. 

I didn't know the 2025 RB class was shaping up to be a strong group, but since Dillon signed, I've been assuming RD5 was probably as early as GB would go for a RB.  I don't see much point in going with an earlier RB when Jacobs/Dillon are set to take the bulk of the RB snaps this season.

[Packerraymond]

3 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said:

I didn't know the 2025 RB class was shaping up to be a strong group, but since Dillon signed, I've been assuming RD5 was probably as early as GB would go for a RB.  I don't see much point in going with an earlier RB when Jacobs/Dillon are set to take the bulk of the RB snaps this season.

I mean if it was a strong draft, you do the same thing we did in 2020 and grab RB3, who becomes RB2 next year, but it's just not sound strategy unless a Brooks/Benson fall to rd 3 or Wright falls to our 4th. 

[NFLGURU]

Whether Cooper DeJean plays corner or safety he needs to end up in Seattle at 16.

DB Cooper in Seattle is just too fitting.

Edited April 19 by NFLGURU

[HokieHigh]

Mockdraftdatabase is hilarious. Nice way to see lots of names i guess. 

 

In one draft i got:

 

Barton, nubin, jenkins, tampa, colson,beebee, hall jr, haynes, jaylen wright, cole bishop, tommy eichenberg, deantre prince, bortolini, tory taylor (goat), anthony gould, Xavier thomas. 

 

Houstons 2025 1rp, 2rp.

Miamis 1rp and 3rp.

[Arthur Penske]

27 minutes ago, NFLGURU said:

Whether Cooper DeJean plays corner or safety he needs to end up in Seattle at 16.

DB Cooper in Seattle is just too fitting.

Huh? Why?

 

[{Family Ghost}]

8 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said:

Huh? Why?

 

Never heard of D.B. Cooper?

[wgbeethree]

42 minutes ago, NFLGURU said:

Whether Cooper DeJean plays corner or safety he needs to end up in Seattle at 16.

DB Cooper in Seattle is just too fitting.

I question his professionalism. Seems like the type of guy who might disappear once he gets some money.

[ThatJerkDave]

30 minutes ago, wgbeethree said:

I question his professionalism. Seems like the type of guy who might disappear once he gets some money.

he might hijack the locker room too.  Probably a huge distraction on the plane on road trips.

[wgbeethree]

9 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said:

he might hijack the locker room too.  Probably a huge distraction on the plane on road trips.

Thanks for tearing yourself away from listening to the new Taylor Swift album on repeat to share that joke with us. I know it couldn't have been easy for you. 

[Mr Bad Example]

I just listened to The Ringer Draft Show's live rd 1 mock (which was a blast) and Mims and Murphy went in the late teens, Barton got snagged at 24, so they had GB grab DeJean at 25.

 

One thing I like about Barton and Cooper is they described Barton as "solving your OL problem, whatever it is" and I think Cooper is a similar player for DBs - wherever the weak spot is, he can probably be competent-or-better in that spot.

[ThatJerkDave]

1 hour ago, wgbeethree said:

Thanks for tearing yourself away from listening to the new Taylor Swift album on repeat to share that joke with us. I know it couldn't have been easy for you. 

I can multitask!

[thrILL!]

6 hours ago, Packerraymond said:

My final top 64: 

 

1	Marvin Harrison Jr.	WR	6-4	205	Ohio State
2	Malik Nabers	WR	6-0	200	LSU
3	Caleb Williams	QB	6-1	215	USC
4	Jayden Daniels	QB	6-4	210	LSU
5	Joe Alt	OL	6-7	322	Notre Dame
6	Rome Odunze	WR	6-3	215	Washington
7	Taliese Fuaga	OL	6-6	334	Oregon State
8	Drake Maye	QB	6-4	230	North Carolina
9	Quinyon Mitchell	DB	6-0	196	Toledo
10	Brock Bowers	TE	6-4	240	Georgia
11	Dallas Turner	EDGE	6-4	252	Alabama
12	Cooper DeJean	DB	6-1	207	Iowa
13	Terrion Arnold	DB	6-0	196	Alabama
14	Graham Barton	OL	6-5	314	Duke
15	Laiatu Latu	EDGE	6-5	265	UCLA
16	Olumuyiwa Fashanu	OL	6-6	317	Penn State
17	Amarius Mims	OL	6-7	340	Georgia
18	Troy Fautanu	OL	6-4	317	Washington
19	Byron Murphy II	DL	6-1	308	Texas
20	Jared Verse	EDGE	6-4	260	Florida State
21	JC Latham	OL	6-6	360	Alabama
22	Jer'Zhan Newton	DL	6-2	295	Illinois
23	Nate Wiggins	DB	6-2	185	Clemson
24	Darius Robinson	DL	6-5	296	Missouri
25	Tyler Guyton	OL	6-7	328	Oklahoma
26	Chop Robinson	EDGE	6-3	254	Penn State
27	Brian Thomas Jr.	WR	6-4	205	LSU
28	Adonai Mitchell	WR	6-4	196	Texas
29	Kool-Aid McKinstry	DB	6-1	195	Alabama
30	Keon Coleman	WR	6-4	215	Florida State
31	T.J. Tampa	DB	6-2	200	Iowa St.
32	Jackson Powers-Johnson	OL	6-3	320	Oregon
33	Marshawn Kneeland	EDGE	6-3	275	W. Michigan
34	Braden Fiske	DL	6-5	297	Florida State
35	J.J. McCarthy	QB	6-3	202	Michigan
36	Ennis Rakestraw Jr.	DB	6-0	188	Missouri
37	Jordan Morgan	OL	6-5	325	Arizona
38	Edgerrin Cooper	LB	6-3	230	Texas A&M
39	Kingsley Suamataia	OL	6-6	325	BYU
40	Ladd McConkey	WR	6-0	185	Georgia
41	Payton Wilson	LB	6-4	238	NC State
42	Javon Bullard	DB	5-11	195	Georgia
43	Michael Penix Jr.	QB	6-3	213	Washington
44	Chris Braswell	EDGE	6-3	255	Alabama
45	Ja'Tavion Sanders	TE	6-4	243	Texas
46	Kris Jenkins	DL	6-3	305	Michigan
47	Xavier Worthy	WR	6-1	172	Texas
48	Xavier Legette	WR	6-3	227	South Carolina
49	Max Melton	DB	6-0	190	Rutgers
50	Junior Colson	LB	6-3	247	Michigan
51	Bo Nix	QB	6-2	217	Oregon
52	Dadrion Taylor-Demerson	DB	5-11	195	Texas Tech
53	Roman Wilson	WR	6-0	192	Michigan
55	Jaden Hicks	DB	6-3	212	Washington St.
54	Patrick Paul	OL	6-7	315	Houston
56	Zach Frazier	OL	6-3	310	West Virginia
57	Jonathon Brooks	RB	6-0	207	Texas
58	Ruke Orhorhoro	DL	6-4	290	Clemson
59	Christian Haynes	OL	6-2	313	UConn
60	Tyler Nubin	DB	6-2	210	Minnesota
61	Ricky Pearsall	WR	6-1	190	Florida
62	Trey Benson	RB	6-1	223	Florida State
63	Malachi Corley	WR	5-11	210	W. Kentucky
64	Michael Hall Jr.	DL	6-2	280	Ohio State

[Rosser80]

5 hours ago, Packerraymond said:

I mean if it was a strong draft, you do the same thing we did in 2020 and grab RB3, who becomes RB2 next year, but it's just not sound strategy unless a Brooks/Benson fall to rd 3 or Wright falls to our 4th. 

or the board blows cookies at 88/91 and we pick Wright at that point with the idea that you develop him behind the other two.

 

Unrelated, I find MLF's comments about Dillon's potential outside of basic handoff reception to be interesting.

[beekay414]

5 hours ago, Packerraymond said:

Another prediction I have after getting through this class and peeking at next year, Gute won't take a RB earlier than 5/6/7 this year. We saw it last year with Gute passing on taking an OL after three straight years of 3x OL picks (and most likely again this year), last year was a weak OL class, this year is great. He waited to pick from a position of strength.

We may be looking at an abnormally strong RB class in 2025, Ollie Gordon OK State, Omarion Hampton UNC, Quinshon Judkins OSU, Treyveon Henderson OSU, Jaydn Ott Cal, Donovan Edwards Michigan, Tahj Brooks Texas Tech, Devin Neal Kansas, Damien Martinez (transfer portal), Ashton Jeanty Boise State all are established runners still in college, I'd put Gordon, Hampton, Judkins, Henderson as RB1 this year. Maybe Donovan Edwards too, it'd be close. Etienne could blow up at Georgia, CJ Baxter is the lone guy at Texas now, Tawee Walker will get lots of run for the Badgers, and there's always 2-3 that come out of nowhere.

Don't chase a poor class Gute, just let Jacobs and Dillon handle it, pick from a spot of value next year. 

That's really not that impressive of a group either tbqh. There's nothing special about Ollie Gordon. What separates Ollie Gordon from someone like Braelon Allen? Honest question. I'm also not sure what separates Hampton and Judkins from the likes of Estime and Benson. Henderson is a horse and probably the most talented back of both classes but he can't stay on the field. Edwards and Ott are of high intrigue but we need to see more (Edwards needs a massive rebound as RB1). Jeanty is a nothing burger tbh like 95% of Boise State RBs. Etienne I won't speak on since I'm not sure he's "Packer people" but the rest I'm not sure about so I have no opinion.  

Basically, I'm not waiting on a what could be from a class that I'm really not sold on. Just take the value where it's at in 2024 if it's there. I'm don't have the same disdain for this class as you do.

Will Shipley 4 lyfe

[spilltray]

As far as OL goes, if I was looking for a guy I might trade up to around 15-18 for, it's definitely Olumuyiwa Fashanu. Other than Alt being #1 there isn't much consensus how the other OT stack up, but for me he's the #2 in the class. I'm seeing him in a good number of mocks 18-22.

DeJean is the only other guy I might be excited for a move up to get but wouldn't want to move up as far.