Packerraymond Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 49 minutes ago, LacyIsGood said: I will never understand why Rodgers thinks this play style is effective. You can have big plays on easy passes. Why would you make your job more difficult, and how does he not see this? For a skeptical guy, he needs to look at his own strategies. Passing Yards 59,055 9th Passing Touchdowns 475 5th Touchdown-Interception Ratio 475-105 (4.52) 1st* Passer Rating 103.6 2nd NFL Most Valuable Player Awards 4 2nd 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Packerraymond said: If the Packers want to be nice, they could re-submit the trade to the league without any conditions with a 2024 2nd as the future terms. They don't have to, but for the sake of the argument if the Jets wanted to trade for another player and asked the Packers, I would imagine Gute would oblige. Why would Gute oblige? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: Why would Gute oblige? Why would he say no? What does he gain? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Packerraymond said: If the Packers want to be nice, they could re-submit the trade to the league without any conditions with a 2024 2nd as the future terms. They don't have to, but for the sake of the argument if the Jets wanted to trade for another player and asked the Packers, I would imagine Gute would oblige. That's okay. I see no need for the Packers to be "nice." The deal was negotiated over weeks. The fact AR was injured is unfortunate for NY.....but it's not GB's problem anymore. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) I am imagining a potential 3-way trade near the deadline where the Jets get Kyler Murray, and the Packers get Budda Baker, with the Packers agreeing to change the compensation to a 2024 2nd instead of a compensatory and Cardinals get the Jets FRP with some late round picks being tossed around to balance the ledger. But the Jets can't trade their 1st or 2nd right now because the conditions on the conditional pick don't toll until the end of the season per NFL rules. If they want to have their FRP to trade, they have to offer the Packers something. 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: Why would he say no? What does he gain? Because the Packers are actively disincentivized from "helping the Jets be good this year" by virtue of owning one of the Jets draft picks? Edited September 12, 2023 by PossibleCabbage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: I am imagining a potential 3-way trade near the deadline where the Jets get Kyler Murray, and the Packers get Budda Baker, with the Packers agreeing to change the compensation to a 2024 2nd instead of a compensatory and Cardinals get the Jets FRP with some late round picks being tossed around to balance the ledger. But the Jets can't trade their 1st or 2nd right now because the conditions on the conditional pick don't toll until the end of the season per NFL rules. If they want to have their FRP to trade, they have to offer the Packers something. Because the Packers are actively disincentivized from "helping the Jets be good this year" by virtue of owning one of the Jets draft picks? As RT said, the work around is massively simple. You're just making an enemy of a GM for really no reason. If the Jets want to trade their 1st round pick for a player they can easily do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Packerraymond said: Why would he say no? What does he gain? He doesn't gain anything by agreeing to change the terms of the deal. As of now, the Jets can't trade their FRP or SRP. Right now, I think their pick is in the 8-18 range and subsequently the trickle down effect. But if they're able to deal their FRP, they could in theory use that FRP to deal for another QB. Not saying it will happen, but there's no reason for the Packers to amend the trade. Adjusting the trade without any compensation doesn't help. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LacyIsGood Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Passing Yards 59,055 9th Passing Touchdowns 475 5th Touchdown-Interception Ratio 475-105 (4.52) 1st* Passer Rating 103.6 2nd NFL Most Valuable Player Awards 4 2nd He didn’t play like this his whole career. Also, if he throws a 10 yard slant to Wilson and he makes it a big play the stats will still count the same To me, it seemed like hero ball started the year they got embarrassed by Denver on Monday night Edited September 12, 2023 by LacyIsGood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minnypackerfan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Why would he say no? What does he gain? He could extract another low draft pick in exchange for being nice. Why not try....look at how Valentine turned out for us this year. Plus, why give the Jets leverage to get a player that could lower our second round draft pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaRisMa Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Why would Gute oblige? NFL could easily accelerate the trade given circumstances. Not a crazy precedent to set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, ChaRisMa said: NFL could easily accelerate the trade given circumstances. Not a crazy precedent to set. What precedent does the NFL have to force the Packers to change to a MUTUALLY agreed trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Why would he say no? What does he gain? A seventh round draft pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodestar Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 If the Jets can just do the trade with RT's workaround ("1st in 2024 or 2025, whichever comes available first"), why would they give up anything at all to the Packers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: A seventh round draft pick Like the price for "you can use your first round pick in a trade" doesn't have to be significant, but it shouldn't be nothing. A mid-round pick swap or a late round pick would get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, NFLGURU said: We all lose because of this. We won't see how this season would have played out. We won't see Rodgers vs Mahomes, we lose out on a first round pick. The Jets take the brunt of it, but there is loss to go around. Selfishly. Everyone loses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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