Week 13 Gameday thread

[Carmen Cygni]

2 minutes ago, lancerman said:

Doesn't matter. Would you rather a non combat fighter who is obviously an elite athlete trying to throw haymakers at you or trying to do one forarm to the back of your head? It's actually more rare to get a concussion from a strike to the back of the head than haymaker. As well significant more dangerous just in general. 

Please continue. Just a heads up, evidence based data is not your friend here.

[lancerman]

2 minutes ago, Carmen Cygni said:

Please continue. Just a heads up, evidence based data is not your friend here.

Provide the evidence if you are going to invoke it. Because actually well known that it's difficult to get any traumatic brain injury from a hit to the back of the head because most of it isn't actually really your head, it's part of the back of your neck. 

[Carmen Cygni]

8 minutes ago, lancerman said:

Provide the evidence if you are going to invoke it.

You've got this backwards. You introduced the statement.

 

But for ****s and giggles, let's address this by referencing combat sports and start with this question: There are strict rules against striking an opponent in which area of the head b/c of a greater risk of injury?

Hint: The strike is named after a cute, furry, hopping creature with floppy ears and a cotton ball tail.

[RuralBill]

5 minutes ago, lancerman said:

Provide the evidence if you are going to invoke it.

I love when Patriots fans make idiots out of themselves. Have some tact. Realize your player did some incredibly bad and other fans are going to be irate about it, arguing your/Gronk's case has no chance of winning right now. 

 

And the outrage over Gronk's act is really not as much about "chance of injury" as it is about how: it was 100% unnecessary, 100% dirty, his apology was 100% the dumbest apology in history, and is (as we all knew it would be) being backed by some Patriots fans.

[MookieMonstah]

1 hour ago, lancerman said:

If you think a forarm to the back of the head is more dangerous than two guys trying to throw haymakers at each other.... I don't know what to tell you 

It absolutely is...Two people fighting know whats coming and are dodging. White had no idea a giant human being was going to slam his head into the ground from behind. Stop defending Gronk, its a bad look.

 

It was completely malicious and dirty. Gronk should be suspended AT LEAST 1 game, if not 2. That crap has no place on the football field.

[lancerman]

1 minute ago, MookieMonster said:

It absolutely is...Two people fighting know whats coming and are dodging. White had no idea a giant human being was going to slam his head into the ground from behind. Stop defending Gronk, its a bad look.

 

It was completely malicious and dirty. Gronk should be suspended AT LEAST 1 game, if not 2. That crap has no place on the football field.

Knowing what's coming doesn't make the action less dangerous. If it's the same action maybe. But a hit to the front of the head is likely to cause a lot more damage and more likely to cause a concussion or be deadly than a forarm to the back of the head. And I already said Gronk was wrong.

[ET80]

14 minutes ago, Carmen Cygni said:

Hint: The strike is named after a cute, furry, hopping creature with floppy ears and a cotton ball tail

What is Rabbit punches?

Punches to the back of the head are also outlawed in MMA as well. Because it's so much safer, right?

This is borderline laughable at this stage. 

[MookieMonstah]

2 minutes ago, lancerman said:

Knowing what's coming doesn't make the action less dangerous. If it's the same action maybe. But a hit to the front of the head is likely to cause a lot more damage and more likely to cause a concussion or be deadly than a forarm to the back of the head. And I already said Gronk was wrong.

You're absolutely downplaying it by simply calling it a "forearm to the back of the head". Gronk ran full steam into him.

[ET80]

Just now, lancerman said:

Knowing what's coming doesn't make the action less dangerous. If it's the same action maybe. But a hit to the front of the head is likely to cause a lot more damage and more likely to cause a concussion or be deadly than a forarm to the back of the head. And I already said Gronk was wrong.

This is horribly wrong. The back of the head contains the cerebral cortex, brain stem, and several other components that regulate basic life functions, and injuries to that area are usually severe - the front of the brain is also protected by thicker areas of the skull, so there is natural padding that prevent significant injuries.

I'd say stop while you're ahead, but you're so far behind in this argument...

[lancerman]

Just now, MookieMonster said:

You're absolutely downplaying it by simply calling it a "forearm to the back of the head". Gronk ran full steam into him.

Full steam? He took exactly three steps forward and it was literally a forearm to the back of the head. There's no more accurate way to describe it.

[ET80]

3 minutes ago, lancerman said:

Full steam? He took exactly three steps forward and it was literally a forearm to the back of the head. There's no more accurate way to describe it.

But as you've said when describing Crabtree/Talib - professional athlete, so he can generate "full steam" with three steps. 

You forget the fact that the man also weighs 265 lbs. 

[Dome]

10 minutes ago, lancerman said:

But a hit to the front of the head is likely to cause a lot more damage and more likely to cause a concussion or be deadly than a forarm to the back of the head.

I call BS. This is absolutely false, what you’re saying right here.

[Scoundrel]

8 minutes ago, EliteTexan80 said:

This is horribly wrong. The back of the head contains the cerebral cortex, brain stem, and several other components that regulate basic life functions, and injuries to that area are usually severe - the front of the brain is also protected by thicker areas of the skull, so there is natural padding that prevent significant injuries.

I'd say stop while you're ahead, but you're so far behind in this argument...

This is all pure gold 

[MookieMonstah]

6 minutes ago, lancerman said:

Full steam? He took exactly three steps forward and it was literally a forearm to the back of the head. There's no more accurate way to describe it.

You're just so wrong dude. Gronk is a 265 pound man, who threw his entire body weight at the back of Whites head and smashed his head into the ground.

 

It was malicious. It was dirty. It was wrong. He should be suspended. Stop. Defending. Him.

[lancerman]

8 minutes ago, MookieMonster said:

You're just so wrong dude. Gronk is a 265 pound man, who threw his entire body weight at the back of Whites head and smashed his head into the ground.

 

It was malicious. It was dirty. It was wrong. He should be suspended. Stop. Defending. Him.

It didn't say it wasn't wrong