scar988 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) Tracking this for a sit bet between me and @brownie man Total Yards (Passing + Rushing) Ridder 1130 Watson 761 Total TDs Ridder 6 Watson 5 Total turnovers Ridder 4 Watson 3 Passer Rating Ridder 85.8 Watson 87.8 Record Browns 2-2 Falcons 3-2 Pt Diff Browns +16 Falcons -13 winner of the most categories wins the bet. If Ridder or Watson gets hurt, we’ll go by per game averages or just scrap the QBs part of this depending on how many games. Up to you Brownie. Edited October 11, 2023 by scar988 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Let’s do it. Sig bet for a year? let’s say 10 games is the cut off. 10 or 12 up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted June 1, 2023 Author Share Posted June 1, 2023 On 5/31/2023 at 1:02 AM, brownie man said: Let’s do it. Sig bet for a year? let’s say 10 games is the cut off. 10 or 12 up to you. Sig bet for the year. I like the 10 game minimum. Otherwise, it's just the record. First 5 categories are all that counts. 6th category is just used for tiebreaker for record. Like if both teams are 11-6, then point differential tiebreaks that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Quick look on paper edges in my opinion: WRs: Browns TE: Atl (counting Pitts as TE which he is more of a WR than TE) OL: even RB: even Edge: Browns DL: Atl LBs: Atl CBs: Browns S: Atl Now Atl is running a bit different of a scheme and philosophy than most of rest of league at moment. Being different helps, in my opinion as it requires unique game plans to defend. They are also in, on paper, arguably the weakest division in football in 2023. Whilst Browns are in a strong division. That is a rather large advantage to Atl. I don't know enough about coaching staffs to say one has an advantage over other. I would say Browns have better overall team on paper if healthy as they have more blue chip talent, but I understand they often have been habitual underachievers for a wide variety of reasons. But the biggest factor is this: It is an odd comparison to compare Watson to Ridder. Watson at his best has already been a top 5 QB in league. Rarified air. But, I kind of get it, he was out of football for a long time and looked terrible last year. Whilst Ridder has done some things to excite fan base hence this bet, but he has only started 4 games. To me Ridder is still an unknown as he hasn't had sufficient reps yet to form an opinion or developed enough in pros at this point. I would say the odds are better to me that Watson regains a semblance of his former self as he knocks rust off than Ridder takes a massive jump in year 2. If I was betting I would go with Browns and Watson for 2023. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted June 1, 2023 Author Share Posted June 1, 2023 That's cool and all, and I tend to agree with your who has the edge in each spot. But I think Ridder and Watson by the end of this year could both be top 10 guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 4 hours ago, dll2000 said: Quick look on paper edges in my opinion: RB: even SLOWWWW DOWNNNNNNNN I know yall excited for Bijan and all, but we talkin bout Nick Chubb Ain't no way it's a push as of today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, brownie man said: SLOWWWW DOWNNNNNNNN I know yall excited for Bijan and all, but we talkin bout Nick Chubb Ain't no way it's a push as of today Fair point. I can see the disagreement. Chubb is a known proven quantity at NFL level and I am projecting based on Bijan's talent that he is comparable to Chubb. It is not an insult to either. Both would be top tier talents at RB position for the entire league. It's all a guess to some extent. Plus, there are many variables to success for all positions. RBs don't typically need same time as other positions to adjust and they are O line dependent. If you put Bijan or Chubb behind a really bad oline neither will do well. Behind a great O line many RBs will do well even without talent of a Chubb or Bijan. If a college RB prospect is an obvious exceptional talent the level of Barkley or Bijan it is a relatively safe assumption that talent will translate to NFL level if Oline can play above a certain threshold of competence. No one is guaranteed. But this is all taking educated guesses to some extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 14 hours ago, brownie man said: SLOWWWW DOWNNNNNNNN I know yall excited for Bijan and all, but we talkin bout Nick Chubb Ain't no way it's a push as of today I think it's more the total group. Chubb > Bijan (as of today) BUT: Allgeier > Ford Patterson > Felton So that's probably where the difference is. Both OLs are pretty damn good. Especially in run blocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Y’all boy is trash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 On 9/10/2023 at 2:43 PM, brownie man said: Y’all boy is trash He went 15/18 and was sacked 4 times. Pass pro wasn't there in the first half of the game. Chill. It's obvious you don't actually watch games and just box score scout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, scar988 said: He went 15/18 and was sacked 4 times. Pass pro wasn't there in the first half of the game. Chill. It's obvious you don't actually watch games and just box score scout. I saw the highlights. I have 0 confidence in his ability to throw downfield. But we'll see long season. Yall run game looked legit with Allgerier thats for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, brownie man said: I saw the highlights. I have 0 confidence in his ability to throw downfield. But we'll see long season. Yall run game looked legit with Allgerier thats for sure. Yeah, you didn't watch the game. He had a dime to Pitts downfield that was excellent. The OL wasn't holding up at all. Like I said before, watch the games. And stop looking for confirmation bias. actually open your eyes to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 On 5/30/2023 at 8:29 PM, scar988 said: Tracking this for a sit bet between me and @brownie man Total Yards (Passing + Rushing) Ridder 390 Watson 456 Total TDs Ridder 3 Watson 3 Total turnovers Ridder 1 Watson 3 Passer Rating Ridder 93.1 Watson 69.1 Record Browns 1-1 Falcons 2-0 Pt Diff Browns +17 Falcons +15 winner of the most categories wins the bet. If Ridder or Watson gets hurt, we’ll go by per game averages or just scrap the QBs part of this depending on how many games. Up to you Brownie. 2-2-1 right now. Tiebreaker would give it to Watson for now, but Watson is a turnover machine early in the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 @scar988 idk if your mans is gonna make it. I know Deshaun didn't play this week, but it's not looking great for your man keeping his spot through the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 20 hours ago, brownie man said: @scar988 idk if your mans is gonna make it. I know Deshaun didn't play this week, but it's not looking great for your man keeping his spot through the season. Lol. Ok. They aren’t benching Ridder. Especially 8 games into his career. But keep thinking they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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