Kiwibrown Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 (edited) What is are commonly sought after traits that are overrated? QB mobility. More important is everything to-do with passing and pocket presence Wr and corner speed. You have to nfl fast but being a step faster isn't that important, agility and acceleration are much more important. Edited August 25 by Kiwibrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 42 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: What is are commonly sought after traits that are overrated? QB mobility. More important is everything to-do with passing and pocket presence Wr and corner speed. You have to nfl fast but being a step faster isn't that important, agility and acceleration are much more important. Top end speed in general is extremely overrated. Im not saying its not a nice trait to have, but its more of a "cherry on top" talent than a foundational skill needed to be successful. I cant think of anything else that really comes close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 4 hours ago, 43M said: Top end speed in general is extremely overrated. Im not saying its not a nice trait to have, but its more of a "cherry on top" talent than a foundational skill needed to be successful. I cant think of anything else that really comes close. It's hard to think of a position where just raw straight line speed isn't overrated. It doesn't really matter how fast a guy is if they don't have the instincts and feel for the game to take advantage of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Also... *trait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 2 hours ago, Tugboat said: Also... *trait. Yeah I know. It hurt my eyes to when I saw it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 (edited) Bench press numbers. in fact, most of the combine numbers. I know they test athleticism and other stuff, but the way we pour over minute differences is a bit over the top, for me. Tape is so much more useful, and there’s more of it. For Pass Rushers - I’ve also seen a lot of examples of scouting reports where they comment on the body composition of the players. “Ripped upper thighs”, “stacked upper body with boulder shoulders”. It’s not a body building contest! I don’t think having striations in delts mean you’re a better pass rusher. Crosby, for example, just looks like a dude who worked as a farm hand. Whereas Gholston could win bodybuilding contests. It’s overblown. Not saying these things don’t matter at all, but that we get far too hooked up on it For QB - Height and size is a bit overdone too. It matters, but it’s not the deal breaker some think it is. I think peak Brees and Wilson have reversed this a bit. It’s obviously rare, but is that because they’re never given the opportunity rather than it being a genuine limitation? Bit of both? Edited August 25 by Hunter2_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 I feel like strength is overblown. Throwing it a mile is great but not exactly a high % throw nor does it happen that often. Same goes for OL/DL. Strength is great but technique can win out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 QB: Arm strength. Yeah, it's important not to have a noodle, but the ability to throw 70 yards downfield so rarely translates to the actual NFL that it's more of a checkbox. RB: The whole position is undervalued. WR: Definitely speed. Possession receivers are a thing. TE: Blocking. This is changing, but a lot of people seem to think a TE is worthless if he's not a plus blocker, and that's just not the case anymore. OL: I don't know. I feel like when I differ on someone's evaluation of an OL, they're just speaking nonsense, instead of just overvaluing certain traits. Maybe aggressiveness? Edge: Bend. It's really not everything. If an Edge has good counters, a decent bull rush, and speed, he'll annihilate bad OTs. Even guys with great bend get put down by the good tackles unless the play breaks down, so it's not an absolute prerequisite. And worse, it makes you (myself included) bite on not great prospects just because they have great bend. Possibly the most overrated trait on this whole list. DL: Pass rushing moves. I feel like these get developed in the NFL pretty easily. This is a position where you want physical traits and good play on the field. Finesse can be coached. ILB: Anything that isn't read-and-react ability, tackling technique, and athleticism. CB: Hands. S: Ability to play centerfield. It's not that important anymore. At this point, safeties are either just corners without coverage speed, or linebackers without size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 9 hours ago, Tugboat said: Also... *trait. I stared at the title for a few seconds like an idiot wondering if there was some nfl term I was unfamiliar with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, Daniel said: .TE: Blocking. This is changing, but a lot of people seem to think a TE is worthless if he's not a plus blocker, and that's just not the case anymore. OL: I don't know. I feel like when I differ on someone's evaluation of an OL, they're just speaking nonsense, instead of just overvaluing certain traits. Maybe aggressiveness? I feel like blocking is somewhat underrated - obviously people who are talking about "elite" TEs want them to be well-rounded, but if someone is a sufficient receiving threat, all you really care about is that they don't ruin running plays; Shannon Sharpe is a great example of a player who made the HoF with a blocking technique of "get in the way for 3 or 4 seconds" But I've seen many players stick in the league for a decade by functioning as a 6th OL who can maybe sneak down the seam 7 or 8 times a year. OL I think some obsess about arm length. And it's like speed - sure, there's a minimum but if a player has enough strength and good technique, his arms being a little shorter than ideal probably doesn't matter. Great post! Edited August 25 by Mr Bad Example 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 12 minutes ago, Mr Bad Example said: I feel like blocking is somewhat underrated - obviously people who are talking about "elite" TEs want them to be well-rounded, but if someone is a sufficient receiving threat, all you really care about is that they don't ruin running plays; Shannon Sharpe is a great example of a player who made the HoF with a blocking technique of "get in the way for 3 or 4 seconds" But I've seen many players stick in the league for a decade by functioning as a 6th OL who can maybe sneak down the seam 7 or 8 times a year. OL I think some obsess about a length. And it's like speed - sure, there's a minimum but if a player has enough strength and good technique, his arms being a little shorter than ideal probably doesn't matter. Great post! Some positions were harder to pick out than others. I agree with most everything here, but I just kinda put blocking for TEs because TEs now can make hay in the NFL while also being terrible blockers, and in fact, the ability to block is now the least valuable TE skillset--they're way more valuable as mismatch weapons. And because I didn't want to just put straight line speed for almost every position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 7 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: Yeah I know. It hurt my eyes to when I saw it. You can edit the title, just click "edit" on the post, and the title is there for editing as well. #you'rewelcome# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 26 minutes ago, Daniel said: Some positions were harder to pick out than others. I agree with most everything here, but I just kinda put blocking for TEs because TEs now can make hay in the NFL while also being terrible blockers, and in fact, the ability to block is now the least valuable TE skillset--they're way more valuable as mismatch weapons. And because I didn't want to just put straight line speed for almost every position. My answer was intended as "blocking is both over and underrated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Wate, which trate, mate? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Generally speaking, height. I also think QB footwork is overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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