Jag68Sid87 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 12 hours ago, GangGreen420 said: What makes you guys think the Browns/Jags/Bills/whatever QB deprived team is going to trade us the pick? Very unlikely scenario. You can forget about trading up to 1 that's never happening if these QBs are legit. I guess it could be a Browns/Wentz scenario but if these QBs are as advertised they aren't being traded. OK, but if these QB's are legit we should be able to get ONE. For me, it's not about getting the top pick. It's about being able to land one of the QB's coming out and DEVELOPING him properly. The key is the development. I am confident we can do just that next year as long as we hire the right offensive guru to run the team/offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockice_8 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 13 hours ago, rdelaney89 said: 7 games will likely land us a 12-18 pick in the draft, I'd be pretty upset with that because I think we'd have to give up far too much to land a top 3 pick. My guess is we'd need to trade our 2018 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 2019 1st & 2nd rounders to move up into the top 3. I think we can still have a positive setting for next year even if we have a top 5 pick. We'll have $80M in cap space, the talent that can be brought in with that kind of money will boost morale across the whole team. If we do win 7 or 8 games with this roster by some ridiculous fluke then I'd want us to go hard after Cousins and use our draft picks to plug the holes. Macc has given us a pretty decent amount of options for this upcoming offseason. At that point I'd still look for a lesser QB outside of the top 3 guys like Jackson (who can be downright electric) or Luke Falk (who looks to be about as accurate a passer there is). Those two guys could elevate our offense especially if the other talent is playing well as you say and we lose out on a top 3 pick. We need a QB no matter what. Obviously I want Darold or Allen but I'd be OK with a freak like Jackson or an accurate passer like Falk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockice_8 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 WOuld be nice to land a 3rd for Sheldon and a 7th for Forte but I'd be happy just dumping Forte at this point for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekill08x Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Why are we trying to trade sheldon when we have ton of cap room and Mo still looks like he doesnt care. Signing Mo long term was a monumental mistake as would trading Sheldon. Forte makes a ton of sense. Hes old and hes slow as $#!t. Any back that gets cut will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.O Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, ekill08x said: Why are we trying to trade sheldon when we have ton of cap room and Mo still looks like he doesnt care. Signing Mo long term was a monumental mistake as would trading Sheldon. Forte makes a ton of sense. Hes old and hes slow as $#!t. Any back that gets cut will be better. It's cause Mac is committed to Mo and we are probably going to spend too much money next offseason to get a comp pick for Sheldon leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.O Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just my take but I'm fine if we traded Sheldon and let Mo go, personally would rather use the money from Mo else where on the team than keep him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdelaney89 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 39 minutes ago, ekill08x said: Why are we trying to trade sheldon when we have ton of cap room and Mo still looks like he doesnt care. Signing Mo long term was a monumental mistake as would trading Sheldon. Forte makes a ton of sense. Hes old and hes slow as $#!t. Any back that gets cut will be better. We can opt out of Mo's deal after this season, I hope we do that at the very least. I'm torn on Sheldon, if the team rallys around him and he's playing well then I think we be foolish to trade him away. I think he is a special player and he never looks like he's dogging it, Mo looks like he just doesn't care anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockice_8 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Dr.O said: Just my take but I'm fine if we traded Sheldon and let Mo go, personally would rather use the money from Mo else where on the team than keep him I'm at the same point. You don't win with 3-4 DE's. We already have one locked up for a long time in Williams. I'd be fine trading Sheldon and cutting Mo after this year and spend that money elsewhere. It'll be easy to find a solid 3-4 DE to replace them. Jernigan, Tuitt, Jay Bromley, DaQuan Jones are all young solid 3-4 DE's. Easy enough to move on from both, save some money and use it elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I'd have no problem letting both Mo and Sheldon walk assuming they don't play very very well this year. Mo was fools gold it seems and Sheldon hasn't really proven anything other than 1 1/2 good seasons and some flashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 15 hours ago, GangGreen420 said: I'd have no problem letting both Mo and Sheldon walk assuming they don't play very very well this year. Mo was fools gold it seems and Sheldon hasn't really proven anything other than 1 1/2 good seasons and some flashes. The Browns just cut Joe Haden over a contract dispute. He is 100% better than any CB on our roster. Lets see what Macc does now. He will probably order another drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.O Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 40 minutes ago, doumeyer said: The Browns just cut Joe Haden over a contract dispute. He is 100% better than any CB on our roster. Lets see what Macc does now. He will probably order another drink. He signed with the steelers like 3/4 hours after he was cut, even so why would he wanna come here? He's close to 30 and has been on the browns his whole career. why would he want to come to another rebuilding situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Didn't see anything, but how did McGuire look? I like his stats for that amount of carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Ricky stats for the last Pre season game don't mean anything, half those players that played the last pre season game won't even make their teams roster. But it would be great to find a diamond in the rough in a preseason game, it has happen but not for us. I think I am wrong about that, one of my all time favorite Jet was Wayne Chrebet. Rob Anderson has a real chance of being real deep threat, if we only had a QB who could get him the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekill08x Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 We need to forget about hackenberg at this point. hes not good at all. he doesnt look comfortable either. maybe he gets brought to camp next year to see if hes improved drastically and if he doesnt he gets cut because he is one of the worst QBs i have ever seen. also do we have a single good offensive lineman on this team? Carpenter is one...can we name another? That has to be the biggest overhaul next year. That line is literally atrocious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 22 hours ago, ekill08x said: We need to forget about hackenberg at this point. hes not good at all. he doesnt look comfortable either. maybe he gets brought to camp next year to see if hes improved drastically and if he doesnt he gets cut because he is one of the worst QBs i have ever seen. also do we have a single good offensive lineman on this team? Carpenter is one...can we name another? That has to be the biggest overhaul next year. That line is literally atrocious Today is cut down day, all teams have to be down to a 53 man roster by 4pm 9-2-17. That should be very interesting, it always is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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