RavensDefense3 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I think it's pretty telling that Jefferson who was a great player for Arizona now doesn't "fit our scheme", the same way Darian Stewart didn't fit our scheme and is now balling out in Denver. I think our scheme needs to change if that is what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, RavensDefense3 said: I think it's pretty telling that Jefferson who was a great player for Arizona now doesn't "fit our scheme", the same way Darian Stewart didn't fit our scheme and is now balling out in Denver. I think our scheme needs to change if that is what happens Well you either change your scheme to allow players to be more flexible and play to their strengths, or you stop bringing in players who don't fit your scheme, and start drafting/acquiring players who do. I just don't understand the usage and the complete falloff of Tony Jefferson. He doesn't look good in the box, he doesn't look deep, he doesn't look tackling, he doesn't look covering. He just doesn't look good/comfortable at all. It's a clear sign that he's not comfortable in his role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 58 minutes ago, Darth Pees said: I rest my case, DB. So you apply nothing to back up your case other than a defense that had a poor performance? Somehow I think if I argued points with the same strategy, I could easily win as well. I would simply point to how Rex Ryan allowed offenses to score 40 points on his defenses. How he always allowed Corey Ivy and Frank Walker to constantly get abused without adjusting. I would also point out how on that 00’ Ravens super bowl winning defense, week 2 against the Jacksonville Jaguars they gave up 36 points!! Horrible performance! That defensive coordinator deserves to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensDefense3 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, diamondbull424 said: So you apply nothing to back up your case other than a defense that had a poor performance? Somehow I think if I argued points with the same strategy, I could easily win as well. I would simply point to how Rex Ryan allowed offenses to score 40 points on his defenses. How he always allowed Corey Ivy and Frank Walker to constantly get abused without adjusting. I would also point out how on that 00’ Ravens super bowl winning defense, week 2 against the Jacksonville Jaguars they gave up 36 points!! Horrible performance! That defensive coordinator deserves to be fired. It's been the same story every year though, ever since Pagano left. Even when we won the SB in 2012 our defense was crap. It's now been 5+ years and after all that we have invested into the defense dean pees still cannot get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensfanRD Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Why doesn't this say he is retiring after this game? I'm salty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 omg, I can already tell we had the lead and our defense gave it away again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 500+ yards, WTF! 3 sacks and no int´s on what, 65 drop backs, ******* embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 55 minutes ago, diamondbull424 said: So you apply nothing to back up your case other than a defense that had a poor performance? Somehow I think if I argued points with the same strategy, I could easily win as well. I would simply point to how Rex Ryan allowed offenses to score 40 points on his defenses. How he always allowed Corey Ivy and Frank Walker to constantly get abused without adjusting. I would also point out how on that 00’ Ravens super bowl winning defense, week 2 against the Jacksonville Jaguars they gave up 36 points!! Horrible performance! That defensive coordinator deserves to be fired. It's almost like this formula has been routinely happening since Pees arrived here, though. This wasn't just some poor performance, this ROUTINELY happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rein Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 “Besides 3-4 bad plays our defense played really well” I guaerentee Pees will say this during one of his press conferences this week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Rein said: “Besides 3-4 bad plays our defense played really well” I guaerentee Pees will say this during one of his press conferences this week! That, along with "players just need to make plays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berlin calling Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 somebody over at RSR found this gem. I'll just leave that here for everybody who still wants to give Pees a pass for his "achievements". it's just the same ish over and over again with him. top units statistically, yet coming short when it counts. https://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/threads/dean-pees.281739/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Quote Playing 10 yards off on 90% of plays isn't even a defensive philosophy. It's just a load of defeatist ****. This hit too close to home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Listening to the Ken McKusick podcast, and he talks about how the oline was furious with MM's playcalling in the final drives against the Steelers. Wondering how much of it is in the heat of the moment, or a general feeling amongst the offense? Despite two good games, the offense has been atrocious in 80 percent of the games, not just bad but disgustingly bad, and MM should not be considered a lock to be an OC next year baring another Flacco balls out Superb Owl run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coordinator0 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Danand said: Listening to the Ken McKusick podcast, and he talks about how the oline was furious with MM's playcalling in the final drives against the Steelers. Wondering how much of it is in the heat of the moment, or a general feeling amongst the offense? Despite two good games, the offense has been atrocious in 80 percent of the games, not just bad but disgustingly bad, and MM should not be considered a lock to be an OC next year baring another Flacco balls out Superb Owl run. Will Harbaugh still be the head coach? If so, it is indeed a lock. These past two games are enough of an excuse for him to justify bringing Mornhinweg back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 44 minutes ago, coordinator0 said: Will Harbaugh still be the head coach? If so, it is indeed a lock. These past two games are enough of an excuse for him to justify bringing Mornhinweg back. Unfortunately, I think the same will be said for Pees, except the opposite. "Sure, we our defense basically cost us the season down the stretch but we had 3 shutouts and played great against backup QB's!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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