true2form Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 4 hours ago, justwinbaby81 said: If you want to move goal posts go for it, but the fact remains the Packers were scoring 25/game and then scored 13 against us. Chargers scored their lowest output despite us losing two fumbles in our territory. We have been bottom 7 in points allowed the last 3 years and now 20th despite the 2nd most giveaways in the league. It's incredible how everyone forgets how inept this defense has been for years and have made bad QBs look great but now that we are playing somewhat decent on defense it's all on the opposing offense. I guess it can't possibly be both that the defense has improved and played bad offenses, after all you're the reality check guy. Just putting out the facts. Neither of us can change the fact Aaron Jones, Ekelar, Mike Williams, etc didn't play in our games. The Chargers scored 24 points in one half, so that's not held in check imo. The Packers were without their top playmaker so it does make an impact. I'm not moving any goal posts, just keeping it real. The defense has been bad for 20 years and maybe that's why I'm not quick to think anything has changed and also why you're jumping at the slightest of improvement. The defense has played well with who they've played and I commend them for that. However, I'm also not someone who thinks things are perfect now because we held some limited offenses in check. For example, I don't think Spillane is a good player all of sudden just because he was gifted two interceptions. I'm not Al Davis signing Larry Brown because he played well in one Super Bowl. Improvement is great, but we are going to have to see it against a good team before I start proclaiming anything is better, let alone fixed. You think we are all set, great. I don't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 7 hours ago, SimonGruber said: Do we know anything about how hurt Koonce is. He finished the game hope it’s not too bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) On 10/10/2023 at 12:06 PM, big_palooka said: Man... you really falling for all the media ballyhoo over CU and Sanders. Just because something is LOUD, doesn't make it good. Maye is the consensus 1b to Williams. Sanders is a 2nd round pick. What does he have that is better than Maye? What separates Sanders from guys like McCarthy, Penix, Ewers, Daniels, Travis, Nix, etc? I think you're vastly overrating him. If his last name wasn't Sanders and that program not in the spotlight weekly, he'd be just another QB. I can actually see why you would say that I am overrating him because I think the media is hyping him up like crazy for sure. If I'm being honest, I didn't even like him initially because of the hype. And then I actually watched his game. To answer your question he doesn't play like it's college football. Caleb Williams(who is better than him.) and Drake Maye play like it's college football. What I mean by that is they do things that aren't supposed to work in the NFL. When I actually watched Sanders, I was very surprised to see how nuanced his game was. I think the reason why people think he's an average athlete is because he's not really trying to run He's looking to throw at almost all times very much like a CJ Stroud. He's one of those guys that in the combine he's going to surprise people with how tests. But to me, it's what his game looks like . But of course this is all my personal opinion Edited October 12, 2023 by Jeremy408 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 7 hours ago, true2form said: Just putting out the facts. Neither of us can change the fact Aaron Jones, Ekelar, Mike Williams, etc didn't play in our games. The Chargers scored 24 points in one half, so that's not held in check imo. The Packers were without their top playmaker so it does make an impact. I'm not moving any goal posts, just keeping it real. The defense has been bad for 20 years and maybe that's why I'm not quick to think anything has changed and also why you're jumping at the slightest of improvement. The defense has played well with who they've played and I commend them for that. However, I'm also not someone who thinks things are perfect now because we held some limited offenses in check. For example, I don't think Spillane is a good player all of sudden just because he was gifted two interceptions. I'm not Al Davis signing Larry Brown because he played well in one Super Bowl. Improvement is great, but we are going to have to see it against a good team before I start proclaiming anything is better, let alone fixed. You think we are all set, great. I don't. That’s football. Injuries are part of the game. You go out and win the game with the healthy players 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packers2021 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I hope you guys get another W this Sunday. I wish you guys the best. Nothing but love for the Raiders. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 Game day thread anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packers2021 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Game day thread anyone? You guys should win this week too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, Packers2021 said: You guys should win this week too. That's the trouble with this team, it's a game we clearly should win but our MO is to build up hopes and expectation, reel people back in a bit and then let everyone down with a deflating and awful loss. I think we should win and we ought to win but I'm nervous to say the least 😄 Mac Jones 330 yard game with 3 TDs incoming???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true2form Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 13 hours ago, bucksavage1 said: That’s football. Injuries are part of the game. You go out and win the game with the healthy players Obviously. That's not the convo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packers2021 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 12 hours ago, Darbsk said: That's the trouble with this team, it's a game we clearly should win but our MO is to build up hopes and expectation, reel people back in a bit and then let everyone down with a deflating and awful loss. I think we should win and we ought to win but I'm nervous to say the least 😄 Mac Jones 330 yard game with 3 TDs incoming???????? You’ll be fine. If Crosby has a huge defensive game and Josh Jacobs has a monster game you guys will win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justwinning Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 14 hours ago, Packers2021 said: I hope you guys get another W this Sunday. I wish you guys the best. Nothing but love for the Raiders. You’re always welcome around these parts 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packers2021 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 56 minutes ago, Justwinning said: You’re always welcome around these parts 👍 Thank you guys too for not rubbing it in like our divisional rivals are doing to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Packers2021 said: You’ll be fine. If Crosby has a huge defensive game and Josh Jacobs has a monster game you guys will win. Fingers crossed. What I really want to see this week though is our QB actually making sensible decisions and doing simple things right like hitting the open guy, not throwing a boneheaded interception. Crosby is awesome and will always be a menace so hopefully our D can keep up the improvement against what should be a poor offence. Who do you guys play this week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Thought this was a nice review, the guy seems pretty level headed and chilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersForever Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Packers2021 said: Thank you guys too for not rubbing it in like our divisional rivals are doing to us. We're used to that as well 🤜🤛 Side note: I'm active-duty Army currently working in a two-man S2 shop. The other guy with me is a Wisconsin native/huge Packers fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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